I have a feeling you'll enjoy this, Chad. It sure made *me* laugh.
Oh, religion. You wacky, thing, you.
And... I was desperately hoping that you may have provided good reason for Chad to smile... again!
Try again? Or does the problem lie with me?
it works fine on this end
But when I posted the "Fail" comment, the site kept reporting that the address must have been entered improperly. Tried repeatedly with different browsers... same report! It may have been a temporary server problem... I stuck around for only ~15 minutes before giving up.
Anyway, I've yet to go back and read it. Should be interesting as I see Dawkins is involved!
People like this are the people that make me want to leave civilization forever.
My God, it must be so easy to be a theologian. You can just make declarative statements about things you have absolutely no way of knowing.
"I have decided that life, as it is complex, needs an explanation for its complexity. I say that God did it, as of course, the only way complexity to arrive is by design then."
Doesn't that imply that God is complex and needs to be explained with design then too?
"NO, SHUT THE FUCK UP, BITCH. God is SIMPLE! SIMPLE, SIMPLE, SIMPLE!!!!!"
How do you figure that?
"Well, see, God isn't like most things, he's like a spirit, immaterial thing that just kinda floats around. Outside the Universe, of course, don't want to say any statements that could ever be proven either way at some point"
How do you know this?
"Oh, you see, it's all just a matter of faith
Well, I think we're done here, there, I've scientifically proven the existence of God"
Didn't you just say it's a matter of faith, and therefore not science?
It's just like of course you can make an incredibly well-fitting model of the Universe if you just postulate weird claims that can't be proven either way, and then for some reason believe in them wholeheartedly...
Like, seriously man, fuck you...
Also, I like how they say he's ~attacking religion~ and ~religion bashing~ and stuff like that he's got a "holier than thou" attitude... Dude! He was SO polite to ANY religious fucktard he's ever had interviews with. The man has patience unparalleled for stupidity!..
Looks like you're getting pushback on FB for posting this, hehe.
"You can judge the whole world on the sparkle that you think it lacks" - Dawes, When My Time Comes (http://youtu.be/Z0FrcTX6hWI)
Goddamnit I need to get a FB just for the purpose of seeing the shit Chad posts and how people react :P
Facebook was optional to teenagers?!
Yeah, both Shelby and I are completely Facebook-less. I've never really seen the appeal, honestly. Too much drama and immaturity. If I had relatives scattered around the country, then maybe.
Just one comment --- repeated ---- suffices:
ad hominem, ad hominem, ad hominem...
This entire article by Alvin Plantinga contains only assertions in defense of mythology, but absolutely nothing verifiable by anyone even remotely capable of understanding how science works!
From the comments at the end, I see many others agree...
I liked it.
I didn't really see it as a big theistic argument - even if that is what it was - but more as just some counterargment pointing out that Dawkins's logic is not indisputable if you start with a different set of premises.
I find my own existence incredibly unlikely - along with the existence of all life on Earth and of the entire universe - just as unlikely as the existence of God. Based on probability alone, I wouldn't believe I exist. And yet here I am, existing. I don't understand it, but I can't think of a more probable way to explain, so I just have to... not think about it, or risk vanishing in a puff of logic. I can't absolutely believe in my own existence or God's nonexistence. I can just mostly believe in them, by not thinking too much and going on what I suppose you must call faith.
Thanks for sharing this, Draco.
I mean, it's apparent the person writing it is EDUCATED... but I find it silly to criticize Dawkin's. I mean, he's super polite, he's super intelligent...
I mostly posted this for Chad, it's not really my cuppa' tea, but I'm glad more than him had interest in it.
As for me? I can't explain some things. I believe in a spiritual side with a mostly science reality. You can't say modern science is wrong just because you're religious, in my opinion, and it gets to me that some religious people try SO hard to "debunk" science, which is the one doing the debunking in the first place!...
but that picture they have of richard dawkins at the top of the srticle makes him look like such a flippin jerk that hates eveyone XD
"A loving man and woman in a committed relationship can marry. Dogs, no matter what their relationship, are not allowed to marry. How should society treat gays and lesbians in committed relationships? As dogs or as humans?"
from The Three Stooges. XD
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