
So I am a HUGE nerd, like, room covered with Spock pics, 2-time graduate of Disneys Jedi academy, planning on starring in my own Star Trek spinoff nerdy.
Anyway, I was watching Star Trek and I realized something: there are no gay people in it! None! And this coming from the show that aired the first televised interracial kiss. So I decided to watch for gay characters, just as kind of an interesting project. And what I found was a little disturbing. It turns outthat Star Trek theNext Generation was planning on making two characters gay, then backed out as it would be "too much." (One was blind and black, the other a neurotic hypochondriac.) Then I saw that in DeepSpace 9, there are several gay characters.
First, one character uses different bodies, and her wife from when she was a dude shows up. Their (homosexual) love is forbidden, and the woman abandons her.
Next, in the "Mirror Universe," the evil version of a main character is obviously meant to be a stereotypical bi, as she kisses (and more) just about everyone she can get her hands on.
Third, another Mirror Universe character, Dax, is described as having an "odd taste in men." She ends up selling out the good guys and running off with the evil bi character, Kira.
Finally, two men on the show admit that they "love their wife and girlfriend, but LIKE eachother...a BIT more...(sheepish grin.)" Then the subject is abandoned.
Is it just me, or is something wrong here? Sg characters of all races, genders and nationalities. So why do they act like the perfect future" only includes heterosexuals? I think we need Nerd Sexuality Equality, and we need it now!
Btw, I meant "star trek is
Btw, I meant "star trek is famous for including characters of all races, nationalities and genders."
"It's a helluva start, knowing what makes you happy."
--Lucille Ball
Well...
Star Trek is set in the future, but that doesn't change that it was made in the past. An kiss between a white man and a black woman (even a kiss that only happened because said man and woman were telekinetically coerced!) was a huge deal. (Somehow, all that interspecies kissing was not...?) It was big that there was a black woman on the ship at all - along with a Japanese-American, and (gasp!) a Russian. It was the sixties.
And progress has been running its course ever since.
There's a significant amount of gay nerdage around now... Maybe not enough, but it can be found. The latest nerd craze appears to be Doctor Who, which in its 2005 rebooting introduced a bisexual supporting character (who now has his own spinoff show, in which everyone is bisexual), a smattering of gay minor characters, and quite possibly even a bisexual Doctor. Just for example.
I agree, though, I'd like to see more.
Do you mean the WWII dude
Do you mean the WWII dude got a show, or is there another bi character?
"It's a helluva start, knowing what makes you happy."
--Lucille Ball
I'm a metal head and also a
I'm a metal head and also a huge nerd!
Metal Nerds RULE!!!!
Christian \oo/
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There may not be gay characters but the actor who plays Sulu, George Takei, is gay.
Yeah, but do you think
Yeah, but do you think Roddenbury knew that at the time? One of Sulu's most famous scenes is him waving his sword around with his shirt off while he kidnaps a beautiful woman. I'm pretty sure they were suggesting a heterosexual romance there.
But in Star Trek: The Next Generation, there was a civilization of androgynous people, who are kind of like trans. And the Enterprise people stick up for someone who thinks they are a woman who is a citizen there--metaphore for GLBTQ rights. Also, Kurzon Dax, a man who lived before DS9, has a female baody, Jadzia, on the show (but she's straight). But there still aren't really any actual GLBTQ main characters, even though there are like 9 main characters on each of the 5 shows. Well, just one more thing for me to fix when I co-direct/write/star in my own Star Trek series!
"It's a helluva start, knowing what makes you happy."
--Lucille Ball
actually a majority
of the main cast of Torchwood (doctor who spin-off) are bi including captain Jack he even had a boyfriend for a while
I just watched the 1st
I just watched the 1st episode--loved it! Not better than Dr WHo, of course, though. But Harkness is SUPER cute!!! ;)
"It's a helluva start, knowing what makes you happy."
--Lucille Ball
he is cute :3
back when 10th doctor, rose tyler and captain jack were together i had a cuteness overload :3
Ten, Rose, and Jack were
Ten, Rose, and Jack were never all together at the same time. There was Nine, Rose, and Jack ('Empty Child' through 'Parting of the Ways') and Ten, Jack, and Martha ('Utopia' through 'Last of the Time Lords'). I guess Ten, Rose, and Jack were all in 'Stolen Earth'/'Journey's End,' but everybody was in those. Except Nine. Sad sad sad.
Blimey I'm a geek. I just did all that from memory.
So far Nine has been my favorite Doctor (not just 'cause he's bi, either) and Donna was my favorite associate - never liked Rose much, but the writers did a good job of making it sad when she left anyway. And funny enough my favorite Torchwood character is Rhys, who's the only one who's never shown any bisexuality.
I've stopped watching Torchwood, though - realized it wasn't worth sitting through hours of boring just to hear a couple of pretty accents and maybe see some gay snogging.
Yeah. I'm on season 4 and I
Yeah. I'm on season 4 and I miss rose SOOOO much, but she keeps showing up sometimes so maybe she'll some back??
"It's a helluva start, knowing what makes you happy."
--Lucille Ball
Dumbledore was gay. :) we
Dumbledore was gay. :)
we must choose between what is right and what is easy. - J. K. Rowling
Nine was bi?! Cool! He
Nine was bi?! Cool! He wasn't around long as I remember--was he there before the 2005-2009 show? I need to see more Doctors. I've only seen Nine and Ten.
"It's a helluva start, knowing what makes you happy."
--Lucille Ball
Yeah...
I mean, you could just attribute it to the Everyone Is Bisexual For Jack Harkness Effect (which I think is a legitimate scientific phenomenon, at least in-universe), except that Ten seemed to be immune.
And yeah, Dumbledore... But it was never more than implied - he actually had to be formally outed by Rowling herself after Deathly Hallows was published. That's hardly nerd equality.
Plus what the hell's with Remus and Tonks getting married, I mean, I know it was so the audience could have a Remus and Tonks baby to console it after two of its favorite characters were killed without so much as an appropriately awesome/sad/somehowmakingitabigdeal death scene, but really. And as for the students, it's just up to the audience to pick out which ones haven't demonstrated any heterosexual leanings, and even those (Neville had some promise, maybe, and a lot of us would rather have had him as the Chosen One anyway, but that's unrelated) have an annoying habit of being confirmed straight by Word of Rowling.
I love Harry Potter, don't get me wrong. But seriously. It's like, 'No, really, audience, Dumbledore's the only queer wizard here, see - marriage! marriage! bam! marriage!' and even Dumbledore was at least somewhat closeted.
Hmm...
I just assumed they cured it by then, no?!
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