Motherfucker I'm tired

swimmerguy's picture

Hehe look at this quote from this guy's Mormon blog:
Have you ever wondered what a BYU Fraternity would be like? Well, BYU’s comedy club Divine Comedy put together a skit a while ago with their interpretation. Check it out below.

I remember doing crazy things like chugging root beer and staying up all night (no girls in apartment though). My roommates slept on the balcony and in an igloo they built in the snow. Yeah, crazy times. BYU students really know how to live on the edge.

I know it may not sound very “exciting” to people from other cultures, but it goes to show, you can have a good time and remember it too. To be it is better than waking up the next morning wondering what you may have done in your drunk stupor.
Hehehe... I don't think I'll say anything. I don't think I really need to...
Here's the video he referred to:

They say they're a comedy group, but I'm not sure what exactly they were going for with that scene. It seems like they were deliberately making fun of their own Mormon abstinence from all things fun.
They can't watch fucking R-rated movies at BYU?
I've never understood that. Abstaining from alcohol, tobacco, drugs etc. makes sense to me that people would want to do that, and I respect that, if I disagree.
Caffeine, abstaining from that I don't understand at all...
Same with extramarital sex... If you use a condom, why the fuck not?
Same with profanity, of course, I generally think that people who find profanity offensive, well maybe thinking original thoughts is not their forte...

But I think really the ban on violence and profanity and everything else is really the most ridiculous and restrictive thing they do...
I mean, there's a lot of great movies and great songs I couldn't watch if I wanted to avoid all violence, sensuality, profanity etc...
I mean, how else would I watch A Clockwork Orange?
You can't really make a clean version of that, you'd cut out half the movie or at least blur the entire thing over if you tried to get rid of every tit and graffiti cock in the scene, let alone the excellent gratuitous rape scenes.
If you removed everything offensive, you wouldn't really have a movie.

Anyway, stupid rant over...
So, there's this cute little Asian guy I mentioned before, well I'm still wondering about him... So I fb friended him, so at least he wouldn't have any doubt I'm gay... If he is indeed wondering that... So many ellipsises...
But I don't think he checks it that often, so we'll see how long it takes him...

I'm kinda not very happy, had a swim meet today, and discovered that it appears that my libido is not quite what it used to be...
I dunno why, but it seems pretty well par for the course recently. That ain't good.

Anyway, reading the New Testament now. I've tried to read the Old Testament but it ain't easy. Genesis is okay, and Exodus, the only other book I've read, isn't quite as good, cause the flight from Egypt is good but then there's just pages and pages of rules, including a whole lot on how you should leaven bread, what days you can do it, what days you can't, etc.
And then God has to describe this whole elaborate way to build a tabernacle, using a few pages to do so, and then it goes through again to describe exactly how Moses did so, all the shit he did, basically repeating the instructions only they were describing what he did...

In the Old Testament it's just very repetitive, both within books and also across books, like there are some stories that appear to have common orgins in that their stories are so similar...
And it doesn't help that it's so motherfucking long, like 4 times longer than the New Testament.

The New Testament is so far so much better. It's more entertaining and the morals are also SO much fucking better.
Although, it does seem to me to be kinda like a lot of what I've thought, Jesus advocates deferment of basically all worldly pleasure and enjoyment, because you'll benefit in the afterlife...
Well, what if you're wrong? Then you'll just have a shit life.
It seems to me like a bank account. You can put in money, in the form of work and deferment of pleasure, and you can then take out more money (theoretically) in the future. But people like Mormons to me, it seems like they never stop putting into the bank account, they never stop deferment of current pleasure, in which case it's stupid, it may feel good to know how virtuous you are, but you've deferred all pleasure and then deferred it again and never enjoyed it, I suppose on the theory that you'll enjoy it in the afterlife.
Well, I'm quite sure you won't.

And I usually say I'd much rather enjoy myself and perhaps go a little crazy while young and have a fucking blast, rather than defer all pleasure to the end of my life, because then I can't do those things anymore, all I'll have is boring old retirement...
And what if I get a disease and die before retirement? Ugh...

Anyway, stupid rants over, g'night Oasies.

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Super Duck's picture

"CHUGGING ROOT BEER AND STAYING UP ALL NIGHT"

SOOO HARDCORE

Oh wait, that's my every weekend... except I do all that with rated R movies. GASP!!!

Uncertain's picture

Pascal's wager! Eternal gain

Pascal's wager!

Eternal gain in a potential afterlife with finite losses in a temporary world. Why not?

(and if you are wrong... You burn in hell for eternity!)

ferrets's picture

atheist's wager.

You may live a good life and believe in a god, and a benevolent god exists, in which case you go to heaven: your gain is infinite.
You may live a good life without believing in a god, and a benevolent god exists, in which case you go to heaven: your gain is infinite.
You may live a good life and believe in a god, but no benevolent god exists, in which case you leave a positive legacy to the world; your gain is finite.
You may live a good life without believing in a god, and no benevolent god exists, in which case you leave a positive legacy to the world; your gain is finite.
You may live an evil life and believe in a god, and a benevolent god exists, in which case you go to hell: your loss is infinite.
You may live an evil life without believing in a god, and a benevolent god exists, in which case you go to hell: your loss is infinite.
You may live an evil life and believe in a god, but no benevolent god exists, in which case you leave a negative legacy to the world; your loss is finite.
You may live an evil life without believing in a god, and no benevolent god exists, in which case you leave a negative legacy to the world; your loss is finite.

copy/paste spares me alot of effort.

anyhow, with pascals wager, your having faith only to get heaven, which is not the reason the judo/christian lets you in to heaven. your supposed to have atonement and a truthful relationship with Jesus and all the like. the belief expressed in pascal's wager is a selfish belief, not the kind the kid god calls for.

"A loving man and woman in a committed relationship can marry. Dogs, no matter what their relationship, are not allowed to marry. How should society treat gays and lesbians in committed relationships? As dogs or as humans?"

lonewolf678's picture

:-\

Thought I saw "atheist swagger". lol

ferrets's picture

heh

i have the atheist swagger too ;D

"A loving man and woman in a committed relationship can marry. Dogs, no matter what their relationship, are not allowed to marry. How should society treat gays and lesbians in committed relationships? As dogs or as humans?"

swimmerguy's picture

By the same coin

What if you spend your entire life abstaining from all the things Mormons abstain from, and worshiping a version of Yahweh, the good old God of the Old Testament, and when you die, you find yourself in front of Baal instead, or Apollo, or Zeus, or the fucking cannibal pagan God of the indigenous people of Papau New Guinea, and he's FUCKING PISSED OFF that no one's worshiping him anymore?

Frankly, I think that the small chance I have of worshiping the right God, if there is one, wouldn't outweigh the sacrifices I have to give up, praying, all that shit.

Shake off all the fears & servile prejudices, under which weak minds are servilely crouched. Fix reason firmly in her seat, and call to her tribunal every fact, every opinion. Question with boldness even the existence of a God; because, if there be one, he must more approve of the homage of reason, than that of blindfolded fear. -Thomas Jefferson

That's right, Tom, I would think that if Baal is the actual God up in heaven, I think he'd more appreciate me not worshiping anyone, then of worshiping Yahweh, his old nemesis. I have a feeling that the God who gave us thinking, rational brains would prefer we use them, rather than blindly follow what people tell us.
Pascal's Wager is seriously a joke, grow up.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt5ghXdq6Z0&safe_search=on

Uncertain's picture

Would that not mean you are

Would that not mean you are better to bet your belief believing in one religion than not believing at all? If indeed, the gains are infinite in the afterlife, mathematically it still amounts to... infinite gain.

swimmerguy's picture

See, though

Frankly, I think a God who created us with rational scientific brains would much rather we approach every question with a healthy skepticism rather than complete faith in whatever someone tells us, as so beautifully and eloquently stated by good old Thomas Jefferson in my last reply.

For example, remember that Harold Camping guy who predicted the world would end on May 21, then when it didn't he revised it to October 21? Both wrong.
And I saw news stories of people who lost their life savings campaigning for this guy. That's so sad, and it should be evidence that blind faith is not a virtue, whatever we may teach our children.

I frankly think that a God, if it be, for example, Brahma of Hinduism, or an ethnic tribal African God that created us all with intelligent brains capable of rational thought would rather that we approach the question of God with open-mindedness, yet skepticism, rather than believe blindly in a God that isn't the God.
I'm quite sure there is no at least Western idea of a God, a distinct, thinking being with a clear set of morals that is intimately involved in human affairs, but I know that there's only one thing needed to change my mind: evidence. I have not seen a single shred of evidence to believe in Yahweh especially, and so to spend my entire life praying to him, giving up my Sundays, being "virtuous" and probably not enjoying this life as much as I could, just because I'd enjoy the afterlife more, well, I think that's frankly fucking stupid.
I've been thinking of becoming a Hindu, because that is much more conducive to free thought, and so, if I was a freethinking Hindu, would God punish me anymore than a freethinking Hindu born in India and indoctrinated by his parents?
If he would punish both of us, then seriously, fuck God.

How do you know that Russel's Teapot isn't God? Or the Invisible Pink Unicorn? Or the Flying Spaghetti Monster? There's so many things that it would be theoretically beneficial to believe in if they did exist, but, there being no evidence in them, I have to say I don't believe in them, because there's theoretically an infinite amount of things there could be.
There could be aliens, who in some amount of time will only save the faithful who believe in them, but I haven't seen any evidence for that, and so, even though I'm possibly jeapordizing being vaporized by aliens, I'll have to say I don't believe there are aliens, at least that visit Earth regularly.

I guess my point is, if someone makes something up without proof that would theoretically be better to believe in if it did exist, but there was absolutely no evidence for it's existence and plenty of science to refute any claim for evidence, then I'd have to say I have no reason to believe in that thing, even though I'm possibly costing myself.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xt5ghXdq6Z0&safe_search=on

lonewolf678's picture

Well,

I know you have this small hang-up on Mormons, but hey, they're just doing their thing. I have to admit I admire their dedication to their way of life (not that I'm saying you don't appreciate that).

And as for your start of reading into the Christian OT get ready for some repetition! It's a little difficult to grasp some translations. What I recommend is if one version doesn't seem to do it for you, go online and check out the many different translations. This way it can help you find the best way to read and interpret the Christian OT.

But I would also recommend if you really wanted to read about the real "OT", I would recommend reading the Jewish Tanakh. Here's a comparison of a Bible and Tanakh translation of GEN. 1:1.

KJV Bible: "In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth."

JPS Tanakh: "When God began to create heaven and earth —"

elph's picture

I stumbled on...

...dedication!

My mind kept whispering (rather loudly): fanaticism.

ferrets's picture

the skit was acauley really funny...

butonly becuase they were totally making fun of themselves. maybe they are like me, and revel in their differntness?

"A loving man and woman in a committed relationship can marry. Dogs, no matter what their relationship, are not allowed to marry. How should society treat gays and lesbians in committed relationships? As dogs or as humans?"

elph's picture

Now... the truth...

There were routines where you actually burst out laughing?

Odd! Very odd! :)

MacAvity's picture

I liked the skit too.

Is it weird that I find that kind of lifestyle - chugging nonalcohol, considering a kiss to be going all the way on a date, even watching Bowdlerized movies - sort of appealing?