
ohhh shiz mes been p all days and worriyng bout dat latest det thats always in dem news. dem dam news. gotta fuckin shake the maraka ladies and jents. gotta clue on how 2 do? ea me to. like a panda boar andd a tube of toothpasete. gin rummy was always always alyways da ANSWER. fauck yeah. sww vVWWWA VW FOIN1 RIP S tip da botll like a drubnk.
me nose entwer aa/na yet ya fools. this shitssssssssssszzz tastin to damn fuckdaring esome. keepin kleeeen aint ze pount a live cuz dats so fucarking borenggggg mainnnnn. so y not we call it a gohead and take diz shitz togever.
see wat morow brings.
causze tonight i think imma ssee some shits. cause u know pirates dont no only staying on no ships no more. nuh uh. thedzes me lyin im in da theaters and like fariliking bout da streeeeeettts and struttin like ain no tomowrw here. cause it no fun without swirly swiryl swirls. gonnas goes out nd parte tonaaght. dats be goood going ya knose cuz i am raedady for one sickass partessf. dgotta get dem keyssssss and fly my leittle large jet pakce.
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Okay, um, I don't wanna get
Okay, um, I don't wanna get all serious here but I have to admit I am a little concerned. I would've commented on an earlier one but I didn't know what to say, and still don't, so... this is my not a comment comment voicing thoughts comment. Hope you're all right. 'Kay then.
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Why do you continue to post these kind of journals? Oasians are starting to get concerned. Is this a cry for attention, perhaps? Just wondering.
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahs yoe. dis
naaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahs yoe. dis ain no kri fo some ATtn . dis is da reeeeel sheet rite hear. noes joque
yo sowwnd lick a muthafukkin
yo sowwnd lick a muthafukkin idyot
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why thank you. that makes me
why thank you. that makes me feel so warm and fuzzy inside.
I'm pretty sure this is a
I'm pretty sure this is a cry for attention. And these journals are painful to read, really. I get the feeling you post these so people will ask you what's wrong, and the comments comfort you because it makes you feel like people are concerned. So you keep posting these jibberish journals so people can worry about you, and that makes you feel like there are people out there who care.
If this is the case, then I really feel sorry for you. You don't need to be posting these journals, dear. All they do is make people scratch their heads and worry.
heyyyy maaaaan why you keep
heyyyy maaaaan why you keep writin ilk diz maaaaaan itz lik relly weird maaan
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its not a fucking cry for
its not a fucking cry for attention, ok?
this is how i write sometimes because its been really bad recently. i've been on the verge of suicide.
so i wish people would stop fucking criticiizing me for this.
i dont care if you worry or ask whats wrong. i need to get my thoughts out. because right now all i want to do is end my life.
There's a suicide hotline
There's a suicide hotline available 24/7 if you need it...
i cant use the phone when
i cant use the phone when i'm like this.
its past that.
No. It's not past that. It
No. It's not past that. It doesn't matter what you're like at the moment. Call the hotline and get help, if you mean what you say about being suicidal. If nothing else, tell your parents. God, tell SOMEONE. Posting meaningless journals like this isn't gonna solve any of your problems. It may only worsen them.
Don't just sit and wallow in your depression. DO SOMETHING! There must be SOMETHING you can do. You have to consider all of your options, find some strength, and quit giving into these little urges. You're being weak. And you may think you can't help being weak, but you CAN. YOU CAN HELP IT. Don't you realize what life has to offer? Don't you realize how many possibilities there are for the future?
Toughen up. Find strength. Don't waste your time posting these journals and stirring everyone up. DO SOMETHING. Take action. I'm not trying to hurt your feelings, I'm trying to HELP you, but you have to help yourself. Do whatever it takes, okay?
You'll never get out of this if you don't hold your head up high and toughen up.
Talking on the phone doesn't
Talking on the phone doesn't work for everyone, besides who said I hadn't told anyone? I just told you didn't I? I'm not sitting and wollowing in deperession I'm writing gibbersh journals and getting out some emotion.You're saying I'm weak and my urges are minor when you're not in my shoes. I am trying to help it the best I can. Hold your head up doesn't work in every situation. I am not a elementry schooler do not talk to me like one. I am not posting this to stir people up, you stired yourselves up. You can choose to ignore my posts if i bother you so much.
My final comment.
I'm trying to help you help yourself. I've said all I can say, and it looks like nothing I say will change anything, which is a shame. The choices you make are your own, and the direction your life goes is in your hands.
I still think you don't know your own strength. Everyone is stronger than they think they are.
<you're acting like an elementary schooler>
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That's redick!
just for you
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That's redick!
I've really had it with you. /TRIGGER WARNING FOR BITCHYNESS LOL
Check yourself into a motherfucking hospital or please get the hell over yourself.
You are GETTING ALL THE HELP YOU CAN. OBVIOUSLY YOU ARE THE ONLY PROBLEM. Get OVER yourself. If you're "on the verge of suicide" then you're obviously sick. Stop bawwwing. If you're sick, get help. If you're sad, make yourself happy.
Goddamn. I wish your mother read what you wrote on here. I think things would be much different.
You're on maxxed meds, you're getting psych help, obviously NOTHING IS WORKING. I am so sick of trying to get you to take care of yourself. I am so sick of trying to help you and you just spit in my face.
STOP COMPLAINING AND DO A GODDAMN THING ABOUT YOUR SUICIDALNESS. COMPLAINING WILL GET YOU NOWHERE. God-DAMN.
Everytime I read something of yours, I just pull my hair out. Seriously. Life isn't that bad. Even if your life is that bad, you shouldn't feel so bad ABOUT it. I know people who are abused like a motherfuck at home and still come to school smiling like they just won the lottery. Hell, I'M abused at home sometimes and I STILL CAN BE POSITIVE.
MAYBE YOU DON'T HAVE PEOPLE SUPPORTING YOU AND CARING BECAUSE YOU ARE ALWAYS NEGATIVE AND EXPECT PEOPLE TO DO THINGS FOR YOU. You don't realize that IT'S YOUR BODY and YOU HAVE CONTROL OVER IT. So stop letting it make you it's bitch!
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Wait...Wait. You just said
Wait...Wait. You just said I'm getting all the help I can and yet I'm not getting enough help? Then you told me to get help... Can you pick one? How about you just try to help by listening a little bit without being a d-bag. Not everyone needs the same help. You're so sick of trying to get me to take care of my self? You're sick of trying to help me? Did you ever consider I'm sick of trying to help myself? Maybe just maybe this is a bit more than anything you've had to deal with and you just can't comprhend other peoples feelings. Maybe you just don't have that much empathy, Clearly you're problems are pretty minior if you can just make yourself happy. You're lucky congrats. If you can't relate to it than you don't need to read it. Sometimes people just need to complain when things are too much, so piss off.
Hmph,
Well I mean check yourself into a hospital before you kill yourself. That's helping your BODY. Helping your mind is already being done by everyone else. You're the only step left. And hey, don't try to make yourself sound "so special". Maybe I'm trying to fucking help you all the time because I know what it feels like? But all you do is step on me and the things I say, because you feel like OH NO I'M DEFINITELY WORSE OFF THAN HER. But you can't say you know me, and I can't say I know you. You don't even believe that maybe for a second, I was just strong enough to push on. You think there aren't days when I wanna stab myself all over and watch the blood pool on the bathroom floor again? You think I don't look at my scars all over my body every day and sometimes wanna open them up?
Like, shut up. Just because I'm happy doesn't mean I don't have struggles, urges, depression. I had a time when I was like you. You don't think I read these and know exactly what you're talking about? I want you to push through, not give up. Because you don't have to choose to not commit suicide. If you do nothing, you get everything. If you're such a badass that you can keep living, then I'll be proud. But what will suicide even bring? You'll just fade to black and everyone will feel like shit about letting you die. They'll blame themselves for it.
So just stop already. Stop treating your depression as an uncurable disease that only other people can break. I have only ever seen you complain about your depression. Why don't you post about what you're DOING about it. When you feel happy. WHAT makes you happy. But then again I don't think you let anything make you happy.
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I never said I have a gun in
I never said I have a gun in my head and I'm going to shoot my self right this moment if I'm not locked up I just said that i was close to that point. Helping my mind is already being done by everyone else? News flash I'm working on helping that! Who knows maybe writing something you consider stupid and attention getting helps my mind for a while. I'm actually. trying pretty fing hard to help my mind and body more than most people would. Maybe you don't know what it feels like because you think people make them selves happy by wanting to be happy and you think Oh I deffinetly have felt exactly like this when maybe just maybe you haven't. You can sit there and go "I muscled through that" When maybe you havn't pushed on through what I'm going through at all. I'm sure you have bad days too but this isn't a once in a while I'm sad about stuff thing this is an every day emotion that is overwhelming and if you could relate to that I imagine you would be more sympathetic.
This has been everyday since fall of 2007. so dont say i should just suddenly be happy. YAY IM DEPRESSED! no.
Hmm.
I'm not saying your feelings are bad. But I'm saying that you need to open positivity and OPTIMISM and HOPE into your life.
And I'm tired of you saying that I haven't been through what you've been through, like I don't have overwhelming daily emotions. Sure I'm not depressed every day, but there was a time when I WAS. There was a time when I literally spent every day cutting and picking at my ankle so much that every sock I had got a blood stain on the inside ankle. There was a time when I honestly had let myself think I was so depressed that I had to commit suicide. I tried, too! I have the one scar on my wrist from it.
It's not like I'm some stupid kid who got depressed one day and scratched myself with a paper clip. I drank alchohol, I cut myself. I did things just like you did. I called for attention.
And you know what, I look back on it, and I pity myself for not having anyone make me realize that it can be changed by changing my attitude. Maybe I should stick you in a house in the ghetto, where your parents smoke crack and beat you and rape you? And you don't get fed every night cause sometimes your parents are too drugged out to do anything? And you raise your little sister, who's skinny and has AIDS and whatever.
Like your life could be that. Tell me WHAT you do. Tell me what makes you happy. Cause I think you sit in front of a screen too often wishing things were better. I want to hear what you're doing. I want you to prove that you're trying. I don't see shit from you.
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That's redick!
I'm not saying you've never
I'm not saying you've never been depressed or that if you have its been not too bad. What I'm saying is that you can't judge my depression unless you're in my shoes. Even though we've both been depressed, that does not make them the same. Nor better, nor worse. There are no two depressions that are exactly alike. That's what I'm saying. That you really cannot judge how bad my depression is unless your me. No one can judge my depression, no one can measure it fully if the person is not me.
Great, I attempted, too.
Do you know what kind of house I'm even from? Do you know my whole history of what's happened in my life? The trauma and all the fucking experiences I've ever had in my whole entire life?
What do I do you ask? I do art--drawing, writing, photography. I practice contortionism. I take nature walks alone to feel more at one with the earth. I read. I go to school. I sit in the grass alone just to have some thinking time. I listen to music. I talk to the girl I like. On the rare occasion, I'll see friends.
I am trying. What happens is that even after I have a positive experience, my mood plummets. After I see a friend, I often become severly suicidal.
So I know that you say you're trying to help and that yuo know what its like to be depressed. But what I'm saying is that , sure, you know what its like to be depressed--I'm not doubting that. But there is no fucking way that you know what its like for *me* to be depressed. I don't know what its like for *you* to be depressed.
So it wouldn't be right of me to say "Oh, just go take a walk outside and hold your head up,your fine," because I am not in your shoes.
And for that very same reason, I can't stand when people assume that my depression is the same as theirs.
And no, I'm not saying my depression is better or worse or anything like that. All I'm saying is you cannot in anyway, judge where I'm coming from. Because you don't know where I come from and what I've experienced. Does it hit you that maybe I don't write about things on here? Like, my experiences have not all been talked about in journals here.
And please, the last thing you should do is say that my depression is an easy fix or is invalid because I have a roof over my head, food on the table. That has absoluutely no fucking connection to depression.
You know what, I've tried to get better. I count the days clean that I've been. Its not like I don't try. What I'm saying is nothing has worked. Otherwise, if something *did* work, I'm pretty sure that these last 3.5years wouldn't have gone the way they did.
Whatever, they're over and done with. but you cannot no matter what say you know what my depression is like.
You know what depression is like. you know what your depression is like. But you do not by any means know what my depression is like. Just like I dont know what your derpession is like.
And I'm sick of people saying that they're trying to help, figuring if they say that then they can be however rude they want. What youve written to me is not helpful. That fucked up link with that picture---you think that that helps?! You think that makes me see myself in a better light? You cant send stuff like that and then expect me to be calm about it after you tell me "oh, dont get mad, all i'm trying to do is help." or "blahblahblah, everyone always takes what i say the wrong way." maybe thats because with that picture, for example, there is no fucking way that that'd be helpful for me. i'd be surprised if when you sent the link you thought it'd be helpful. were you trying for it to be helpful?
its not fucking helpful.
The picture....
Was to make you realize how stupid you're sounding. You're "past" calling the suicide hotline? What? Yet you have the time to blog all over Oasis about how bad you feel?
It's not like I hate you. I don't hate you or dislike you. But how you act? REALLY gets under my nerves. I don't doubt you're depressed. I don't doubt it's bad.
Why don't you show us your art? Your photography? WHYYYYYYY don't you post THAT? I dare you. I dare you to try and post positive things about your life for a week. I dare you to show me up and talk about the good things you're doing, what books you're reading, etc. THAT'S what I wanna hear from you. I want to know Eli, not know THAT Eli's always depressed. So c'mon, just try. I'll get off your back.
Otherwise, really. You're just putting out that you're a walking block of depression, which isn't a good way to act. I wanna know the face behind the problems, and the problems AS WELL.
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Obviously if you're able to
Obviously if you're able to write a legible comment, then this journal is typed in a needlessly gibberish attention-seeking fashion.
obviously you know
obviously you know everything that went through his head between the journal entry and the commenting. obviously your assumptions based on the logic in YOUR head, which has nothing to do with his head, is the best and truest assumption.
obviously.
Posting journals like this
Posting journals like this is attention-whoring, plain and simple, and it pisses me off.
i think it'd be healthier
i think it'd be healthier for yourself and those around you if instead of choosing to see things as "plain and simple," you either look for the truth in a helpful manner, or withhold your judgement.
I have a very low tolerance
I have a very low tolerance for bullshit lately.
Some things ARE plain and simple. It is what it is. A cry for attention. He's posted like 3 of these things, and it's getting really annoying.
the truth is never simple.
the truth is never simple. if your tolerance is that low, remove yourself. you can generally tell within 3 seconds if one of Eli's journals will be like these 3 or not. put on your big girl panties and don't make assumptions or judgements.
It's gone on long enough. He
It's gone on long enough. He needs to stop. All it does is either piss people off or make them worry.
Ugh,
both of you stop. It looks like a cry for help, but there's not really much we can do about it. Bickering won't solve the problem either.
Judgements...
Happen all the time. Behaviour that is not typically healthy or excusable will render you under judgement. If a rapist is near you, of course you judge them by their actions. We are free to judge what we want. And as long as Eli posts this stuff on a public place, we are free to comment and put our opinions on here.
That being said, if Eli can't handle people not liking what she writes on here, then she can make the choice to change what she writes, not write at all, or continue to have people be displeased by it. It's a very adult decision. However, putting on your "big girl panties" means dealing with your problems when they face you, which also means being able to take people disagreeing with your behaviour and owning up and realizing when things are harsh.
Honestly, if Eli had started the journal with "I need to write funny so I can vent emotions. It will make me feel better." then that would be understandable. Replying also in fake-writing is not understandable, as I worry that she's high or poisoned or something. THAT is what makes it attention whore-ish, and that's why we don't like it. MAKING us worry without warning isn't appropriate. That's willingly and knowingly causing other people "harm"... or whatever.
I'm really tired of people justifying bad behaviour just because someone is Trans* or a woman. This is why I'm not a feminist or anything. Behaviour is behaviour and sometimes, no, it's not healthy.
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1) abnormal behavior does
1) abnormal behavior does cause judgements. I guess I just choose to channel my judgements in ways other than being so bluntly rude to another human being. One of my biggest philosophies in life is "don't be a dick," and that means whether or not those around me are being dicks.
1.5) obviously, I was sort of a dick to Super Duck earlier. I recognize that that was not congruent with what I said above and I apologize for the insensitivity.
2) I'm pretty sure Eli has pointed out that he prefers male pronouns. Don't be a dick.
3) Trust me, I've told Eli to use his "big girl panties" before. But, because he has a rough time and is less mentally stable than most folks on this site, I choose to tell him so in private, and KINDLY. I believe many of the things you do about his coping mechanisms, but when I talk to him, I do it with the intention of helping him come around to a new way of thinking, instead of calling him names and hurting his feelings. Your approach, frankly, tends to make him feel a lot shittier about himself.
4) Also, I was worried when I saw these journals, so I politely and privately asked him what the deal was. He explained it, very clearly, and now I understand. Now I don't get nearly as scared, as worried, or as pissed, and I no longer need to respond to these entries. You really think saying "this is bullshit you're an attention whore" is going to neutralize the situation?
5) I also believe that one can't blame one's issues on their status in non-dominant position in society. I never, ever said "oh, let Eli vent cuz he's a transdude." I go out of my way to not be a dick to anyone.
About the pronouns...
It was a slip-up, since Eli's profile says he lives "fully as a female". I guess I got confused. I'd never call someone that on purpose. Sorry :(
Agreed, about being a dick to Super Duck. Considering you're protecting Eli and yet being fully rude to another, non-trans memeber. It's just that you guys "stick together", and often protect each other even when something needs to be said. Which is frustrating. Completely understandable, though.
I have been nice about telling Eli the same things before. And then he would ignore my comments. And sometimes even when I was being completely genuine and nice, he'd snap at me because I totally don't even know him- when I was just giving advice from my life.
So, yes, I snap a little. It bothers me a lot when people discount what I'm saying just because they think I don't understand. I don't like being stupid. I don't like people telling me or assuming I AM stupid. I don't like being ignored when I say something, especially when I'm trying to help, and OVER especially when someone is clearly asking for help. Just because my approach and opinion are different doesn't mean my ideas aren't something that you should try.
I just... I don't know. The home life is not a place where I'm heard. Every idea or opinion I have is discounted because I'm young. So I suppose I'm a little frustrated and too forward to make up for it :I It doesn't excuse my behaviour but maybe that's it. Idk.
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That's redick!
I guess he feels that you're
I guess he feels that you're disregarding his feelings. Even if you aren't, that's how he feels. It hurts him. Seeing how it hurts him makes me get all puffed-up and protective. I'd be that way for anybody here, if they'd come to me the way he has.
I'm sorry that my protectiveness has led me to lash out at others. Truly.
Well...
It's the opposite. I care about his feelings so much that it FRUSTRATES ME that he won't take my word or even acknowledge that what I'm saying DOES help people. He's getting hurt by not doing anything. In fact, I think he's getting more hurt. And that's why I get worried and angry that I'm not being listened to. Instead of saying, "Okay Shelby, I'll try that", it's always "I hurt too much for that" or something. And it makes me feel like I shouldn't even say anything. But I care too much to sit by and not say anything.
It's not that I don't think he's seriously depressed- I do! I'm just saying that there IS a way to lighten the mood, and that's focusing on the good things. Sure it's not a FIX but it most certainly helps. The fact that he disregards MY words is the thing that makes me get all rawrr.
Anyways, it's okay. I lash out too :U
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That's redick!
the thing is, i value that
the thing is, i value that opinion and approach a lot and i think that what you have to say could really effect Eli. So much is read into your tone, and that's not because of your reputation or anything, it's just... the way its written. It makes us defensive. Like, I can tell you for a fact that the conversation you guys had made him feel a LOT worse. And we all know that that isn't what you want. Seems like everyone involved could work on communication so that everybody hears what the other person means.
Err...
I don't get the correlation between writing like this and being suicidal.
It does seem that writing in a completely different style about God knows what this is does invite attention and comments, though.
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"Why be given a body if you have to keep it locked up in a case like a rare, rare fiddle?" - Katherine Mansfield
Hmm,
I know this is off topic and probably not productive but when I glanced at this journal I thought I was reading Dutch or Afrikaans. And I was like "WAT?". But then I read it and saw the comments.
Please stay alive Centerfielder08 please! Do it for me, stay alive!
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