slightly unorganized thoughts
i think i feel a little lonely tonight. i know there is always the one i can talk to, but i feel like having company in the land of the living. i crave an ear to listen to me. i want someone who will care. i want reassurance, hey i guess i do have some teenage qualities (LOL!). if only there were one mortal who cared for the outcast, one of the delicate flowers in the sea of weeds. alas i've been stepped upon for many a long time, my pedals are fading and withered, the stem which held me high has bent. yet i continue to live, but for how long. how long before i am my own assasin? (i'm still NOT suicidal)
i wonder if Jesus was ever suicidal, i can certainly see how it would have been a thought to approach him. i'm certainly feeling that way. i know there are some who would see my suicide as a drop in the bucket. "oh how nice it would be for the God freak to be at the hands of death and meet his maker! his God that does not exist has surely forsaken him!". maybe i should leave this place once and for all time. i thought a place like this was to be accepting no matter what we are. apparently it was a false hope that lured me here and decieved me.
if i had a blank book in which to write the misfortunes in my life i caused upon myself, the pages would paint a picture of woe and regret of a life not even fully begun. i want to make an exodus from this place. yet i still stay. i need to get a IRC account and make friends through the antiquated technology that many unwise people can't navigate. maybe i will find my bretheren there and there i will seek acceptance. and there i will curse The Facebook, Myspace, Friendster, Oasis, Mocospace, and all the others that have spoiled The Digital Frontier.
i will build a base of friends and there i will reside and live a life of complete anonymity toward any who seek me for the ritual virtual hanging.
Allahu Akbar
MasAllah
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Woah...
Well, for me at least, that one was out of left field.
I don't think anyone here has ever tried to be unnaccepting... I don't know where you came from on that... Some instances?
From everything I've read, at least, you've seemed like a good, decent, and interesting person, and I'm sorry if you didn't feel welcome here. I really don't know where this comes from, but you go do what you need to do.
No one escapes from life alive
'i crave an ear to listen to
'i crave an ear to listen to me. i want someone will care.' I may not always understand or respond, but I do listen, and I do care. I doubt I'm the only one. Please don't curse Oasis. I know that few or none of us share your beliefs (we're not good enough - that's why), and that some can be unaccepting because of it. But not all. Please stay, unless you truly believe that this place has done you no good and that you can find a better community elsewhere. If you can, do what is best for you, but I do hope you can find something of help or compassion here.
oh,
dear MacAvity, you were what i considered a friend. but i create too much drama and have this displacement that forbids me to get along with anyone here. i have to leave, it's for the better.
heh
i admire you in a way. your the kind of person i pretend to be. i pretend to car about god, pretend to pray in church, pretend im interested in the verses the pastor tells me to turn to. your what i have to pretend to be for my perants.
furthermore, youve stayed with your faith. ive left mine mostly behind, replacing it with a much colder view of god and existance.
im one of those people that has all these biblical facts and concepts in his head, but no desire to apply them.
on a related, yet unrelated subject, i would still like to bat around some reliogus ideas with you some time.
"A loving man and woman in a committed relationship can marry. Dogs, no matter what their relationship, are not allowed to marry. How should society treat gays and lesbians in committed relationships? As dogs or as humans?"
i'm sorry,
Ferrets. that day will never come. i will miss you.
if you must....
i would have enjoyed it. maybe you would have given me solid facts and reasonings to some of my thoughts other then "IM RIGHT, AND YOUR WRONG, FOR THE LORD SAY IT IS SO!"
"A loving man and woman in a committed relationship can marry. Dogs, no matter what their relationship, are not allowed to marry. How should society treat gays and lesbians in committed relationships? As dogs or as humans?"
Eh...
You can't take every anti-religious comment as a personal affront. I don't know what the majority of people on here believe, nor does it matter. I do think you're way better off sorting out your spirituality on a site about sexuality than the reverse, though. I have no desire to make you atheist, but the other side usually wants to make you straight.
If we have to pretend God is awesome and Jesus died for all our sins for you to feel welcome here, then yeah, that's a tall order. Considering religions are nearly all anti-gay, it also makes sense that you'll have trouble finding a place where that isn't the vibe. But there are gay Christian and Catholic groups out there, like Dignity. No clue if they have websites or anything.
I don't particularly care for ferrets (the animals), never swam on my high school team, or lusted after a girl in my French class (I took Spanish), but these people just came in and started talking about their lives, and people get pulled in. People bring their unique selves to the party here, and that makes it interesting.
The desire to balance sexuality and spirituality is nothing new, but we're more likely to help you if we don't have to be converted first. I'm cool with you being a well-adjusted homo that's into God. Totally fine by me. But I'd treat it the same as friends who listen to Phish. They claim there's something worthwhile there, but I'm not hearing it. We're still friends, though.
If you're going to be gay and religious, your job is going to be fighting that fight. You can find tiny little pockets of community where everyone will be on the same page. But the larger gay scene is anti-religious, and the larger religious scene is anti-gay. So, you need to step up and figure out how to make both of those things work for you.
But leaving here isn't going to help you on that path. You need community more than you need us to believe everything you do...
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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain
what i have to suffer?
1. i don't want anyone to convert for me. :|
2. almost every religion is anti-gay? then why am i still gay and faithful? answer me that.
3. i guess i accepted my sexual orientation (or whatever the politically correct term is now) and i never feel the need for acceptance for that. i think you are right Jeff, this is the wrong site for me.
4. leaving will help. i need a real life. other than arguing with people on the internet.
Well...
To point 2, name a pro-gay religion (Universalist Unitarians don't count, I can bring a Barbie doll there and they'll let me pray to her)...
You said yourself that you believe in evolution, don't believe in Leviticus, and such (things the Pope wouldn't say, at least not without a lot of qualifications).
So, you have decided to not believe things that are still considered the word of God in your church. Everyone does it. Personally, I think most straight religious people are anti-gay because it's easy for them. "Don't sleep with my same sex that I'm not attracted to? Done!" It's like me giving up lesbian porn for lent. No worries...
But when you get into birth control and other issues, they then carve away the parts they don't like, too. So, it's easy to be gay and faithful if you can delete a few passages as mistranslated or out of date, like eating pork or shellfish, etc. It's where the term cafeteria Catholic comes from, just pick the stuff you like.
There's also the notion that spirituality and religion aren't the same thing. So, religion is a man-made construct through which people can explore their spirituality. Remove religion, and faith and God are still potentially on the table, and potentially improved.
I never said this is the wrong site for you. That's your decision to make.
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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain
ugh,
as if i'd carve everything out to fit myself, as if. this is the wrong place. bye jeff nice knowin' ya.
Lone Wolf has never tried to
Lone Wolf has never tried to convert any of us. He's never condemned atheism, all he's done is express his own personal religious beliefs. And it makes sense for him to be offended when some of us go beyond stating 'I don't believe in God,' and start making disdainful remarks about religion. Sure, if asked, we'll say we don't disapprove, but the anti-religious sentiment is still there. I can see why you feel unwelcome, Lone Wolf, and I would like to help you in making it so that won't be the case.
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you understand. but i'm sorry there is little you can do. but i have to leave and find, or make my own place. you were a good friend MacAvity, Atheist or religious, you are a great person.
"we must break ties to form anew" quoted from section 7 in "Anonymous quotes"
again,
i've backed up my journals. so if this account be deleted. all my thoughts, opinions, dreams, hopes, aspirations, and everything inbetween will exist in my computer or my small webpage (highly unlikely the webpage will ever be brought to life).
Hmm...
We don't delete accounts here, so this will be waiting for you whenever you want to return to it.
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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain
well
besides on request if i remember correctly?
"A loving man and woman in a committed relationship can marry. Dogs, no matter what their relationship, are not allowed to marry. How should society treat gays and lesbians in committed relationships? As dogs or as humans?"
Sort of...
The system will delete your account name, and attribute all your previous posts to the Anonymous account, if I delete it. Only other option would be a user blanking all their content first, and then I delete it.
Otherwise, if someone created a popular forum or somesuch, a lot of stuff would disappear that we want to keep.
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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain
I can see that you've
I can see that you've thought this through. I'll still hold some hope that this will be like the other times you've left, but if it's not... best wishes to you, Lone Wolf. I'll miss you.
No one wants you to change
No one wants you to change your spirituality or stop expressing it.
Any comments I've made about religion weren't directed to you, but to the concepts, the ideas. As it would be for anyone arguing about anything. While I can't speak for anyone else, I have never meant to personally attack you, and I'm sorry if you saw it that way.
I don't think anyone wants you to leave. The only person persecuting you is yourself.
I hate that I missed this!
I truly hope you won't leave, but that doesn't seem very likely...
I don't think that I've made any anti-religious remarks. I don't think badly of religion... I apologize if I've said anything I didn't mean to.
You have been great about showing your faith here while respecting our beliefs (or lack of beliefs). I hope this isn't a goodbye, but... I'm sorry. I'll miss you.
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For you. The only two musical symbols I have on the keyboard. Good luck.
Wow.woW
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:(
i've...
...named no names, i don't hate anyone. but i can't stay here because of the friction i cause. i thought this was a place where someone could be who they were, i was foolish to think so. a gay religious man (i've started calling myself a man) is so ironic.
it's funny, no one wants anything to do with me.
Would you please stop being ridiculous?
I know, that was blunt, I'm sorry. But seriously. Either I missed something very big, or you're reading resentment into places where it isn't there.
Oasis is not all-accepting. I don't think anywhere is. We try pretty hard, but people have their individual prejudices, no one is perfect.
As far as me and religion: I'm uncomfortable with religion. I try not to push that on people who believe, though. And if I did, it would be on me, not them.
Stop beating yourself up and LISTEN to what we're saying to you: you never stopped being welcome here. Conflict happens. There is no reason you should feel you need to leave, unless you WANT to leave.
~~~ the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses ~ e e cummings ~~~