
a conversation via facebook
Bold = Tara
Italics = Frost
normal = me
what happened, 3 years ago Tara's husband (fiance at the time) kissed me and I told her because I respected her adn thought that was something she needed to know.
Tara-Lynn Oesch — 3 mutual friends
Know this we are not that petty that we care who mike talks too it is a free world and he is his own person. I WILL NOT dictate who he can speak too. So fuck you and the lesbian you rode in on. And another thing don't ever speak to Andrew again, neither of us want anything to do with you, we are happily married. I think i finally understand where anastasia's father was coming from all those years ago. WE APPLAUD HIM. I would like to shake his hand and give him a fucking medal.
you want to shake the hand of a man who beats up women, strangles them in public (not me his current girl) and threatens to kill unborn children? you sure about that? and I didn't think you'd tell mike NOT to talk to me I just thought you'd start bitching at seeing my name kinda like you're doing, and all I did was agree with Andrew but meh whatever. hope you had a happy new year today and a good valentines day with your husband.
-Mandi
Don't even try and take the high road. He merely thought your existence was useless and he was right. You stuck your fucking nose in my relationship with andrew and almost cost us our lives together. I can not forgive you for that or dragging adam into the line of fire. I am not bitching because i seen your name i am bitching because you have such a high opinion of yourself (and yes thinking i would bitch at mike about you is calling me petty). you are an evil emo succubus and i warn you never to come near me again. And believe me you don't need to ask if that is a threat. (Twerp says hi)
And as for drama if you had kept your nose out of it you wouldn't have this problem but you can't help but screw with happy couples because we all have what you fucking don't.
Hi twerp ^_^
and I just let you know what happened cause I thought you deserved to know, I didn't want to break you guys up and I'm happy for you guys getting married and I'm glad everything is working out well props to you guys for working through everything cause I know you had that rough patch and I'm glad you made it through it and are happily married, I really am. I hope you guys do stay together forever and have a wonderful marriage and when you're ready a wonderful little family (or big if you want a big one) I'm sorry you feel the way you do about me but I understand it and sorry I can't do anymore then tell you I am sorry I made you feel that way.
Stop the act even i know you aren't this reformed to feel sorry for what you did. If sorry mattered so much you would havesought forgiveness years ago rather than letting it fester this long into my raw seething hatred for you. You liked watching our lives fall apart to match your own unhappy existance. And you were too much of a coward to come face me once the dust settled and left adam to face it. So show your true fucking colors and say what you really think. You didn't expect andrew and i to love each other enough to make it. You aren't happy that we are making it or that we will have a long and happy life together. Or our own family. YOU AREN'T HAPPY! So stop the damn show and act like yourself. Tell me you're totally awesome and so much better than us. Or that there is no way in hell that i could hurt you. Stop trying to take the high road so it makes you seem the victim of me being bitter. That is truly pathetic.
well that is true, you can't say anything to hurt me because your opinion of me is just that YOUR opinion and it has no effect on my opinion of me. You will always believe what you want to and that's fine, but I am actually happy for you and I really do mean everything I'm saying, I feel sorry for you being so full of rage you can't see the purity of what I am saying, but I'm sure one day you will. I didn't leave anything for Kai to face for me, but if that's how you feel so be it. I am not looking for your forgiveness, whats done is done and how shit went down is how it was, that's all there is to it, nor do I expect it, but that doesn't mean I am this person you seem to have decided I am within your own mind's eye, this really is me, this is really what I think and how I feel. I also don't view myself as a victim that's for sure, if anyone is a victim here darling it's you all I'm doing is pitting your being a victim and being happy for your happiness. I don't see how I could possibly be viewed as a victim from this conversation, but okay.
Drama? Yeah fucking right lady.
Your immaturity makes me sick. To call someone names (emo succubus). Wow. You fail.
Leave my wife the fuck alone. Drop it and back away. If you don't, you'll be hearing more from me.
-Frost Noel
Are you really that dumb or are yo tying to get under my skin? Do you ever step down off your high pedestal built of bullshit and look at yourself? Do you lie to yorself every morning, saying you are a good person and a good friend? You don't see yorself, you only see the image your mind conveys. You see what you want not what you are. You are a truly twisted creature, no sympathy, no remorse. What right did you have interferring? You didn't know me. What could have possibly given you the right in your twisted mind to hurt me like that? You don't seem to comprehend what you did or the effect it had on me. I don't care how you justify yourself, you weren't my friend. We didn't know each other. So tell me why you were so eager to divide me and andrew. To pull apart the life we had built together. Whatever andrew's transgressions against me, what gave you the right to get involved if it wasn't for your own or Brianna's personal gain?
And I never knew mandi needed someone to speak for her. I speak of a great personal hurt she has transgressed against me. I am well within my right to lash out i pain and anger and attempt to better understand why she did what she did. Maybe then I can get past it. So I kindly ask you Frost Noel to back off yourself and let Mandi speak for herself.
no we weren't and aren't friends I told you because I don't think anyone has the right to be treated that way and not know, that is all it simply was. and don't confuse my choice to live my life with out regret as me lacking remorse, I am truly happy and I live my life in a way that allows me to love, respect and cherish every day as it comes, what would be the point in treating you with disrespect and talking down to you? It would not accomplish anything and it's nothing to be proud of, so why even bother, I don't see why I shouldn't be happy for you and Andrew and how far you've made it and all the blessing you have, why should I covet something I have? I think you two deserve it, and deserve to continue to have a happy and wonderful life, everyone does.
and I'll pass on you're message to Frost
Look here is the deal I have had almost 3 years of anger over what happened building up inside of me. In a way what you did probably saved mine and andrew's relationship, but for me to come to that relization I needed some closure. I'm sorry that for me to achieve such closure was at your expense. That in my anger at what happened I lashed out in an attempt to hurt you as much as I had been hurt and still hurting. You are right I do not approve of your ex or his actions. I should not have gone there it was uncalled for. I do believe you are sincere in your apology and your intentions were pure. For so long when I thought of the pain of that betrayal I couldn't get past your involvement an have directed all my anger towards you. I am ready to leave it behind me.
I am glad that this conversation has helped you to put that behind you and I am truly sorry that you had to deal with this alone(to a degree because I'm sure andrew was there for you) for these past 3 years, I wish you had contacted me sooner to get past this, but I would not be surprised if you did not know how or were not ready to, I completely understand. I am sure my understanding of this situation was hard at first because you were upset, and hurt and rightfully so, but the reason I could understand and tell you I am sorry you feel that way is because I was married (not that it would have worked regardless because I married a man for social reasons not love) and some girl purposely did everything in her power to steal my husband until I got tired of him being a liar and not doing the things he should as a husband and father and left him, so I've been on that side of that kind of betrayal. If you have anything else you need to get out of your system feel free, I am not going to hold it against you and you should not lock it away, locking it away will only eat at you and tear you up. I do not hold anything you said in your anger against you and I won't. I am not looking for you friendship but if you want it I will give it to you. But I am off now to do some "revenge hacking" to Frost and post in her status too lol, hope you have a good night and had a great valentines day (minus our little talk which I really hope didn;t ruin your day.)
PS
I know andrew strayed but I also knew how much he knew he was wrong to do that when we all lived together I knew it from the way he spoke of you and how I could hear how much he wanted to fix things, and I'm really glad you two did!
I am sorry and thank you.
so I feel I don't know happy isn't the right word but I'm really glad I was able to help this girl because I never ment to harm her in anyway I was just being myself and showing her respect and I am so glad I was able to help her move past that road block of anger I hope it brings her so much more happiness in the furture ^_^ I am so glad for facebook right now!
☺Mandi
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You're amazing luv.
You're amazing luv.
Oh yes, I forgot. "So fuck
Oh yes, I forgot.
"So fuck you and the lesbian you rode in on."
Reasons that pissed me off?
(a) ignorant comment.
(b) the second word in that sentance hasn't happened yet.
Although, after stating fact (b), that's not all I think of, and I love you for you, a beautiful individual.
agreed
that was the only thing she said that made me want to let myself go and just scream at her but I know I am better then that and I have chosen to be be a positive and enlightening individual not another angry hater. But at the same time, and don't laugh (not that I really think you will) but I kinda liked the comment O.o because it's was better then the "you're such a poser you can't be a lesbian you had a baby" thing XD it was kinda like being accepted >.<
and I know it's not all you think about baby and I love you too ♥☆☽
Wait... so all this was over
Wait... so all this was over a kiss?
I swear to the Lord, I still can't see, why Democracy means, everybody but me.
- Langston Hughes
yes
and completely involuntary(sp?) on my part too, that boy (Andrew) had been trying to get with me since I was 15 and dating his best friend, and I flat out told him back when we lived together I NEVER wanted him however that I did find his little brother very interesting so when he kissed me I was actually trying to hook up with his little brother I was really angry.
O.o Looks like serious
O.o
Looks like serious bitch-fight D: I'm sorry about that! I don't get why that was such a big deal, but... you know :/
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There isn't a sharp line dividing humans from the rest of the animal kingdom. It's a very wuzzie line...and it's getting wuzzier all the time. - Jane Goodall.
meh
it was totally something she had to face and better to do it by talking or yelling at me then continue to twist this image of me she had falsely produced in her mind.
well. that was intense.
well. that was intense.
it really wasn't
well it might have been for her, but for me it was fine, I understood it needed to happen and she needed to get past that, or it'd have set her back in life, all that rage just building up, poor thing.