My Place on Oasis

Uncertain's picture

I have to say I was very encouraged by the comments I received in my last entry... I was starting to think I'm a little too grown-up for this site. That at eighteen, I'm no longer like the slightly younger crowd such as swimmerguy and ferrets, and neither part of the older mentoring bunch that belongs to jeff, pat and ox. For a while, I did feel a little displaced. Yet the irony is, I have been here since I was thirteen or fourteen, and I could identify with the issues faced by the younger crowd; and starting to gain the insight of the latter. But somehow I felt stuck in the middle.

I'm not really one to write things like this - personal responses about this site - with names and recounting and such of people and past events. This site for me, is really just a realm that casts some light which shines onto my real one. It's a place where I throw my thoughts, memories, and emotions from the 'real' world into - and let it sit there - and hopefully people will also respond to them. While this place surely holds significance in my real life, I'm not one to really acknowledge them and reiterate it here - as I feel it a little absurd. This is a place to hold my thoughts and memories, not create more of it.

Of course, that doesn't mean I don't give feedback and offer my advice to other people, in fact it's the opposite. I realised one day the number of journals I post have dropped significantly, and my posts on other people's journals have increased (relatively). After some thought, I realised maybe it was because I feel a sense of apathy or self-sufficiency towards my problems - that being able to generate my own advice defeats the purpose of posting a journal. Instead, I find it encouraging how much I can relate to some of the entries that are posted - of course everyone's situation is different - but I can remember a time in my life, or even recall a very similar entry I've posted to some journals I read. The deja vu is weird but useful at the same time. I feel I could give them something I learnt from the past. Maybe that explains why my posts have increased and my journals have decreased in number. I sought to answer more than ask questions. With time, I suppose the urgency for me to post something (that is original and new and previously unexperienced in my life) became an ever diminishing occurence. Of course, a secondary reason is the who-I-am dilemma, unable to identify with the site as much as I used to. I felt people cared less about what I had to say - even I wasn't as interested as I used to be - I felt complacent.

And that was when I started wondering if that's what I wanted. A lot of people sort of drifted away from this place after a while. People before you and before me. People who are no longer active. People who were my age when I was still a confused teenager who stumbled upon a Time Magazine article mentioning here. I remember thinking how long it'd take for me to be like them - four years seemed like a long time. And now they're gone, and I'm sort of in their place.

I remember being merely fourteen, a little while after I joined, when I met up with someone from this site - he was eighteen. He was the only other New Zealander really active on this site and I could not really grasp the impact of this site until you realise words really aren't just words - they are a person, flesh behind a screen typing away, who feels, and has a history behind them too. I was shy back then, we had lunch together, I didn't know what to expect - but he was so very supportive.

I don't want to just disappear. This is an amazing place, a very supportive place, where I can always post anything. When I was much younger I've always vented my frustration here. While the people have changed and I no longer mention it, it doesn't change the fact that this site has been there for me. Not just about coming to terms with being gay but also broken friendships, my initial cultural displacement in a different country, coping with my parent's divorce, a long period of self-harm, having to live away from my parents from ten-years-old, hectic relationships and so on... Things I no longer mention frequently or at all - and rightfully. I've moved on. But it's this site which has been a permanent fixture in my life that helped me through a lot of it.

But I've stopped doing that with new things in my life, for reasons said and not said. But I want to continue. And I want to remain part of it and help people be part of it.

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swimmerguy's picture

The younger crowd, hmmmmm?

Sometimes I feel 70 compared to Ferrets' youthfulness.

"The sole right of a human being is the right to do whatever you damn well please. Their sole duty is to take responsibility for their actions" ~ P.J. O'Rourke

ferrets's picture

im not sure...

is that an insult or a compliment?

Half a league half a league,
Half a league onward,
All in the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred:
'Forward, the Light Brigade!
Charge for the guns' he said:
Into the valley of Death
Rode the six hundred.

'Forward, the Light Brigade!'

swimmerguy's picture

Most people...

Would consider youthfulness as a compliment. Andy Rooney said that you should stop celebrating birthdays at 20, because getting older is nothing to celebrate :D

Anyway, I'm jealous of your uniqueness.

"The sole right of a human being is the right to do whatever you damn well please. Their sole duty is to take responsibility for their actions" ~ P.J. O'Rourke

jeff's picture

I prefer this...

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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

elph's picture

Believe me, Matthew...

...Chad's comment was indeed a compliment. You're both have your own very unique (i.e., admirable) qualities, and are much valued by your fellow Oasisans: you complement each other!

patnelsonchilds's picture

Congratulations on making it

Congratulations on making it through all you've been through, Kiwi. Having been here through a lot of it with you, I know how hard your life has been at times, and I'm proud of the way you've always managed to deal with the challenges in your life, though I wish some of your coping mechanisms had been a bit less harmful. We all get by the best way we can, thogh. The really important thing is that we get by. Now you can get on to the good stuff.

At a certain age, all of you go through this here on O. Sometimes, it's just a gradual reduction in posts until the person is just no longer active. Sometimes they say good-bye to kind of mark their transition from one phase of life to another. Some stay, because they still have a lot to work out and they feel like this is a safe, supportive place to do it in (which is the truth). Some turn around and give back to those coming up the ladder behind them. It's a personal decision, and there is no wrong one. Speaking for myself, I've been very glad to have you here. As long as you want to stay, I'll be glad to see you, and if at any point you decide to leave us, I'll miss you, but I'll wish you all the best in life, and hope that you keep in touch.

Love,
Pat

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- Pat Nelson Childs
"bringing strong gay & lesbian characters to Sci-Fi & Fantasy"

Lol-taire's picture

Ha- you, me we are in

Ha- you, me we are in between. And we will be until we start to feel like we're really adults, not just pretending. I have no clue when that happens.

We're youth.

There's quite a few people is this sort of age range on here though- me, ghost, niks, elvenknight etc.

I started writing here under this name when I was 18. I'm almost 21 now. I stopped for few months back in the summer. But it's a diary. It's the filter on our life.

Life still needs filtering even once you exit childhood. I suppose because you've been living away from home for so long it will be different- but for me leaving school, working, leaving home, falling in love, moving houses, changing jobs, starting university, depression, going out, disappointment, happiness, money troubles, the changes in my relationship with my parents' (and the ways it hasn't changed), music, clothes, my friends, books, politics, everything.

You know as well as I do that you don't get the answers to teen angst in your birthday card, you just get a new set of bloody questions.

Wolfcry's picture

Now I feel like the oddball.

Now I feel like the oddball. I can complement each and every person's journal/comment with some witty rhetoric, or a Sage-like nutty reply. But I don't really see where I fit... my sig says it all, in my opinion...

"Oh what tangled webs we weave, When we practice to deceive. I know you well, Actions and motives. Bear the cross, wear the crown, it's just some evil you can't bleed out. Hell has to notice, Your actions and motives." 10 Years, Actions And Motives

Adam A's picture

meow

i like you.....even though you're a kiwi, but don't be spreading that around now...unless you want me sending the allblacks and wallabies round your place for a little gang bang

jeff's picture

Eh...

I don't think you have to be as old as Pat to give good advice here. I always describe Oasis as a peer support site, so we're the exceptions.

Ages ago, when I was a music major, I was volunteering in an elementary school, and I was giving lessons on instruments I didn't play myself yet. Since they were very early books, though, they showed every new note in detail, and then incorporated that new note into a song. The teacher said I didn't really have to learn how to play the flute well, I just had to get one page ahead of the student.

So, to be useful on Oasis, you only have to be able to share what's happened to you, even if it happened last week. Swimmerguy is young, but can give perfect advice to anyone who may be outed at school, or have a girlfriend they want to come out to, etc.

The secret to Oasis is that half of what you say doesn't matter (which explains what I write half the time, heh), but just that people know that they've been heard. That's what most people are looking for. They reach out into the void, and other people let them know they aren't alone. At its core, that's all there is. If someone is thinking of coming out, and asks advice, everyone shares their thoughts, and most of the time, they find their own path to coming out anyway. But our replies said they were heard, and that no matter how their coming out goes, they have a place to come after that, to celebrate, freak out, or vent.

You did luck out there with your in-person meeting. I still chat him up occasionally on Facebook, and he's been in a relationship for a few years now, both at the same school, etc. In fact, I was just sending his boyfriend's resume to a friend at Google a little while back. Over the years, I've met a lot of people who come through San Francisco, some major users, some lesser-known users, and oddly enough, some of the lurkers who don't post (didn't sleep with any, oh well...), and Oasis played some role in their life for them to want to look me up. But that role is different for everyone.

Some people leave when the world of being out, meeting people in real life, etc., stops being off in the future and is their reality. Others like to hang out a bit longer and help people younger than them avoid some of the pitfalls they may have encountered. I can't speak for Pat or elph or any of the old folk on here, since I'm in a unique role on Oasis. A lot of my time is deleting spammers, answering pm's, tech support questions and, lately, planning for the new version of Oasis. At 14 years in, I can definitely attest to there being a cycle here, with many people starting off when they have questions and concerns, and leaving when those are answered or settled. When people have asked me, I've said they should volunteer in a supportive role for half as long as they needed it, which means we get you for two more years! ;-)

Sounds like you're already shifting into offering more support to others rather than needing as much for yourself, or just not documenting your own experience as much. And certainly any user will benefit from you helping them like that. And, of course, if anything happens and you're frustrated and need to reach out, you know what to do.

Like everything else in life, this site is what you make of it. Thankfully, due to people like you, this is a supportive place where people feel welcome, heard, valued, and loved. If there weren't as many peers offering such great support, I couldn't write half the nonsense I do. ;-)

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"Wanting to be someone else is a waste of the person you are." - Kurt Cobain

patnelsonchilds's picture

Yes, I will always be older

Yes, I will always be older than Jeffrey. Fortunately, I will always be prettier also. :-)

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- Pat Nelson Childs
"bringing strong gay & lesbian characters to Sci-Fi & Fantasy"

hellonwheels's picture

max...

i feel the same way sometimes about being stuck in the middel and still using this site, but you are a cool kid, and like pat was saying, congrats on making it thru all the shit you have in the last few years dude. lol-taire makes some good points. hows things been? long time.

-hell

Mental wounds not healing, driving me insane, i'm goin' off the rails on a crazy train- the ozzman