Out of Bounds

Lol-taire's picture

God I'm tired. I haven't been sleeping well and I'm getting headaches. I am so tired my eyes are small and my face is puffy.

But Jeff's book post started me thinking, and I started writing this out there (not the health complaint bit- what I'm writing now) but I thought it was getting too long and anyway, if jeff has an opinion on me at all it's not a flattering one so I thought to myself, start your own damn thread if you will be self indulgent. Which I have and is this journal.

It's just that being out doesn't mean everything. You tell your family and your friends until it stops being something you tell and become this matter of public record, but really you can be out for years but still not quite get it.

I was gayer before I was out- whatever that means, and here it means less inhibited. I came out over the six months before I turned 16, and now I'm 19.

Before I told I adopted all these little markers of femaleness, in case the girls I'd never wanted to be like in the past decided I wasn't quite one of them, although I'd never been like them before. And most the habits I chose were improvements maybe, or just a part of growing up. I started shaving my legs and I grew out my hair and stopped wearing the non-underwired bras that came in multipacks and started caring about the clothes in magazines and learnt how to talk to boring girls about tinted moisturiser the most boring of all the cosmetics. And it's not that I regret any of this- talking to boring women is one of the most useful skills you can learn, since talking to boring men is easy as all you do then is let them talk- it's just I chose them deliberately to assimilate; so no-one could say that it was obvious I was a lesbian. However crudely stereotyped the markers were (short hair, sensible shoes), I didn't want to prove them true, but I also didn't want to be indentified by them.

It's what I was about to tell everyone I was, but the last thing I wanted to be.

And in the past four years I've had no female queer friends, no girlfriend, no sexual contact, barely even eye contact. And with my friends I am just a neutered straight girl. I don't want to make them uncomfortable- (and it does make them uncomfortable...)- I don't want to make myself uncomfortable- (... or maybe it doesn't, and it's my discomfort). Of all my friends only KD doesn't let me pretend to be a straight girl, and it's strange.

I felt treacherously overjoyed in the past when I was seen out with my ex-minus-the-boyfriend and people thought we were together. [an equally repressed gay boy I'd known as a child, met again at 6th Form and had a platonic, walking-the-dog-in-the-park-on-Sundays phase of quasi coupledom before an actual break-up and now we have to avoid each other on the bus]

I was getting agitated the other day, because I thought, what if this was a choice afterall? A choice I don't remember making, back when I was 12. Because I could unchose it. But it isn't really?

In a few months I'll be leaving home and then maybe, we'll see. I'll run in different circles hopefully.

You can be out and not out at all.

Anyway, although I doubted them I think the stupid all-natural herbal suppliment sleeping pills are actually working a bit and maybe I'll cheat insomnia if I go to bed now. Goodnight.

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electricity's picture

Ah good point. Though me

Ah good point. Though me being out means I am OUT. I am gayer than ever because I'm finally allowed to be. I've written about this before, how I was like a dormant volcano all those years and now I have just erupted everywhere and the lava keeps flowing. Now it's more of a known thing, I don't have to tell people, it's a given that I'm a lesbian, and I've cooled down, but there's still lava. When I came out it was more that I relaxed and got to be myself.

the ghost's picture

I sometimes worry that my

I sometimes worry that my sexuality was some choice I made years ago,even though I know thats not the case.I think I am afraid of being out and not really being.Like it is one thing to tell people and make it know that you are gay.It is another thing to actually put it into practice and live it.I think telling people is only the first part of being out the second is when you actually begin to live it.
Anyways this was a very long winded way of saying I agree and identify with what you have said here.

No one can make you feel inferior without your consent-Eleanor Roosevelt

Azul's picture

I never thought

I never thought homosexuality was a choice, I've always wondered if I misinterpreted my feelings. Like, what if what I was feeling for guys was really me just liking masculine chicks?

jeff's picture

My bet...

You would have dated masculine chicks in that case. Most people first step isn't, "Hmm... cock...."

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Azul's picture

aren't you mister "Your

aren't you mister "Your sexuality is set in stone".
Jeez mista.

jeff's picture

Of course...

I think your sexuality is set in stone. How long it takes *you* to figure out what it is, though, who knows how long that will take?

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Azul's picture

Really? I think that

Really? I think that sexuality is more of a sociological and psychological phenomenon that has its root in genetics. Therefore variable, which makes it not set in stone.

jeff's picture

Hmm...

I don't say it is genetic. I actually am disinterested in the specific origins. Would be like sitting around postulating why I have brown hair. What I do know is that I do have brown hair now, so how it came to be brown can be explored, but at the end of the day, it's still going to be brown.

Same with people who are bi, then gay, then whatever, then whatever.... they aren't really changing anything, just lousy at figuring out which is the right one. They are changing their beliefs, though the sexuality just sits there waiting for them to catch up.

By the time you address your sexuality, I think it's past the point at which you can affect it.

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jeff's picture

Well...

I certainly don't think people should confuse being out with everything in their life falling into place. Being out is the solid foundation you need to build a meaningful life. But it's only the foundation, everything else is what you build on it.

Also, I have no negative opinion of you whatsoever. I enjoy your posts. If anything, you rarely tend to ask questions or such. Most of my replies are answers to what people ask, even if it's supposed to be rhetorical and they aren't going to like my answer, hehehe. But, anyway, get that idea out of your head if it's in there.

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niks121997's picture

...

You have a way with words whereby I feel each word. If that makes any sense at all. Even if I can't relate directly to the topic, your words and the emotion behind them never fail to resound within me. I can connect in some manner, somehow, to your writing. Anyway...as odd as that little bit may sound...

What you've said has me musing over various things, and really the thoughts aren't terribly important, but I just wanted to say that you've made me think. And feel. Which is saying something considering the shadow I've become.

I have actual comments about this particular piece but I've taken up too much space already, and besides I've got to walk and try to get the Juno soundtrack out of my head.

I do hope your insomnia dissipates. Sleep is high on the list of essentials.

"Life's under no obligation to give us what we expect. We take what we get and are thankful that it is no worse than it is."

"All that we see or seem is but a dream within a dream."

Shura's picture

!

I totally want to read these thoughts! *You* might dismiss them, but maybe something you write will hook someone else and make them think (someone like me?;))

Shura

Shura's picture

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I'll be your girlfriend!

I hope leaving home changes things for ya... it did for me in terms of the people I hung out w/, but not in terms of being more okay w/ myself; I'm back home now, trying to untangle and get some things back up to 'happy-esque,' and hopefully being able to 'live it' and express my sexuality and romantic tendencies way more will trail along w/ that...

sleep is magical! :)

Shura

ACCgirl's picture

"I was getting agitated the

"I was getting agitated the other day, because I thought, what if this was a choice afterall? A choice I don't remember making, back when I was 12. Because I could unchose it. But it isn't really?"

I have worried about this for so long, and I wasn't sure if any one else felt this way. There are many times when I've thought about attempting to "unchoose" this possibly unconscious choice I made when I was about 12. It almost seems like if I could go back in time a bit and warn myself not to entertain certain thoughts or read certain materials, things would have turned out differently. Like, if I had never gone into that one GLBT teen chat room when I was 13 just to see what gay people were like, perhaps I wouldn't have thought to question my own orientation. I've worried about whether or not the 12-13 age was not so much about waking up to my true sexuality, but rather, dreaming up a false one.

The questions are maddening, aren't they? But I suppose at the end of the day what matters is that we seem to have fallen for members of the same sex, and that is what makes us happy, regardless of causality. It's unfortunate in many ways, but it's as real as the chair I'm sitting in, and there doesn't seem to be a way to change it - there are only ways to deal with it.