Easily Offended?
Do you believe the 'gay community'/ individuals within the gay community are too quick to cry homophobia- too easily offended? A victim mentality?
Or do you believe that homophobia is still widespread enough that there's no way of overstating it? Or that if it is overstated this isn't a negative thing because overall it's contributing to a more tolerant mindset?
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I think when people see hate
I think when people see hate everywhere, directed at them personally, they tend to see hate when it's not there. Most of the time, however, if it appears to be homophobia, it's homophobia.
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I think that the problem
I think that the problem comes in that there is such an equal mix of homophobic and accepting people, and that there tends to be a rather large divide between the two groups. The other day an aquaintance of mine, d, brought some girls from the park to see the dorms. she didnt know the girls, and it seemed pretty sketch to be bringing people you have never met into your room, and so i asked her who they were when i saw her later.
I instantly was barraded with a lecture about how i didn't need to judge them on the way they were dressed, and that i may not agree with it but... (etc. etc. etc.)
and then i realised that she thought i was asking why they were there because they were very obviously gay, and she assumed that i was homophobic.
and the most ironic part is that she's straight.
on the other hand, i once hung out with a guy that said something along the lines of "thats so gay" and i said something to him about it, and felt ridiculous afterwards.
turns out that he was the "crazy religious guy" who pulled a knife on his gay roomate due to homophobia last year.
intentions are just so hard to read, and in this case I think intentions are everything.
I think not just queer
I think not just queer people but people in general get offended to easily. But when it does come to some things....c'mon the Snickers "Kiss" commercial was funny.
It doesn't matter if you're
It doesn't matter if you're being sensitive, it's still offensive so people should stop doing anything that's offensive.
WTF?
"people should stop doing anything that's offensive"
So let's see where that leads. I couldn't eat because my diet offends militant PETA douchebags. I couldn't smoke pot because it offends...well, apparently someone. I couldn't smoke cigarettes because it offends...well, everybody. I couldn't talk about my relationships with men because it offends the Religious Reich, and I couldn't talk about my relationships with women because it offends the Militant Lesbian Mafia. I couldn't say "Merry Christmas" because it offends the secular humanists, and I couldn't say "Happy Holidays" because it offends the Christians.
I could go on for pages. Have I made my point?
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my two cents
I think some people in the gay community (and other minority groups) are too easily offended by things in the media.. and it kinda annoys me when people make a big deal about really minor things that aren't even meant to be harmful. We should take things more lightly I reckon.. I mean the media is all about being controversial and pissing people off.
i have to agree. i realy
i have to agree. i realy think that we should only take offense if it was MENT to be harmful. you have to look back to the reasoning behind a comment
Never be afraid to stand up for whats right. If you lose your values, you've lost yourself, so dont let someone change you into someone you arnt. Don't be afraid of the punishment, Rejoyce in the freedom that let to it.
But then if we don't make a
But then if we don't make a big deal how else would Jesse Jackson afford a BMW?! (I'm too lazy to check if he's dead or not)
I think that to generalize
I think that to generalize for all individuals within the queer community shows that homophobia (or at least stereotypes/misunderstandings) are still fairly widespread. do people usually make such sweeping statements about straight people? some people cry homophobia, and have a victim mentality, and are easily offended. certain individuals (regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity) are just like that. they're annoying. but homophobia definitely exists. i've gotten many negative reactions to being queer, and many positive (and sometimes surprisingly supportive) ones. we need to be aware of homophobia and work for acceptance and community (fuck tolerance, we're not some chemical that people need to get used to having in the system). at the same time, i'm rarely offended when i do encounter homophobia. they're ignorant, it has nothing to do with me personally.
"freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"
Well obviously people do
Well obviously people do make sweeping statements about straight people. It's just not labelled as such because the 'straight' part is implicit.
Generalisations are the only way you can make sense of the world; it's an evolutionary strategy that similar things are grouped together.
well obviously we make
well obviously we make generalizations, they're called schemas, they help us organize our thoughts so we don't have to re-evaluate everything all the time, that wasn't my point.
it's rare that someone expects one straight person to speak on behalf of all straight people with regards to sexual orientation. similarly, if you meet one straight person, it's highly unlikely that you're going to assume all straight people are like that. however, if someone is not aware that they know any queer people, and meet a single openly queer person, they will most likely assume that all queer people are very similar.
my point was that whether people are just being easily offended, or whether they're reacting to homophobia, varies very greatly. if you're a women's studies major at NYU, you're going to encounter significantly less homophobia on a day to day basis than someone who's studying early childhood education at a small southern university.
for example, in my opinion, larry kramer's letter is horribly victim-y. i agree with many of his points, but in my cases things aren't as bad now, and even the points that i do agree with sound so whiny that i feel like he distances people from the issue itself. however, his letter is a result of real hate that many people face. i have friends that are attacked by little old ladies and/or beaten up by larger men when they walk into bathrooms. how hateful is a world that doesn't allow people a safe place to pee while using public facilities?
there are also many young people (particularly in more liberal areas) that have never really experienced homophobia, and seem to have a 'what's the big deal' sort of attitude. it's wonderful that this can happen, but at the same time, these are people that need to be aware of history and understand what generations above us have sacrificed so that we can have that privilege.
"freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"
People definately make too
People definately make too big of a deal of it. I mean, straight people are going to get offended and cry "gay people think they're special" and that'd be the end of that.
I mean, really. The whole freakin' world needs to let up.
Whatever I did, I didn't do it.
i think in the high school,
i think in the high school, homophobia is everywhere, just casue no one wants to be called gay by supporting it. but i really dont know many gays, but im not very easily offended. so many people insult gays, and dont know im gay, so i dont really worry too much about it, cause they arnt my friends, so i can let it go. most of my friends (who know or dont) are pretty openminded, although ive got one who disses gays alot, and thats one i do get offended by, just beacsue she's my friend, so it DOES matter to me. but the overall gay community, im not sure, i dont think so, but i dont know too many gays, so i dont have a wide selection to look at for that answer
Never be afraid to stand up for whats right. If you lose your values, you've lost yourself, so dont let someone change you into someone you arnt. Don't be afraid of the punishment, Rejoyce in the freedom that let to it.
I think that if people
I think that if people aren't being blatantly homophobic, it's hard to tell if it's necessarily there. And then sometimes, if people are confronted, they get defensive and say, "I was just joking." But then they don't understand that when you have a joke that hits someone right in their core, right in their deepest emotions, that's nothing to be making fun of. That's my two cents.
Yes...
I think that any minority , for the most part, cries victim waaayyyy to damn quickly....just because you're black, it doesn't mean that's why it happened, just because you're gay, that's not why you lost the job, just because you're from a latino neighborhood, it doesn't mean....yada, yada, yada, the excuse, even in varying situations, is the same...they did it because I'm....ever since Rodney King, and even before that, this victim mentality/ blame someone else mentality has been there. The gay community is no exception.
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