The Moment You Knew...

jeff's picture

This forum is connected with the first topic in a series called "Life Lessons," on Oasis. This forum is in reference to The Moment You Knew. So, read it, and come back and share your stories.

msquared's picture

Stow-rie time, kiddos

The moment I knew, I KNEW. It hit me like a ton of bricks. Well, maybe 97 tons of bricks, because the truth was so utterly overwhelming.

I was at a shin-dig with some amigos when my lady friend asked me and the group of guys I was with a question. "Why do guys think it's hot when two chicks make out?" As soon as she asked that, I knew. I had no answer whatsoever because I realized girls, whether they're with other girls or not, do not turn me on in the slightest.

Like Jeff, I thought I was bi, too, at first. Even though I knew I was unattracted to girls, I thought if I got a girlfriend and played lip tag the attraction would just spring up like it was always there. It's a common misconception, but completely untrue. Well, considering this isn't really supposed to be about coming out, I guess that's it! Fin.

“Never forget! The higher we soar, the smaller we appear to those who cannot fly.”
-Friedrich Nietzsche

Imstillhere's picture

The moment I KNEW

Was in the 7th grade. I was on the internet (thats how it starts for a lot of people i guess) and a popup for a chat room came up and i clicked it being the 12 year old i was. It had a list of different ones and one said girls only so i thought that'd be cool. I clicked into a room full of lesbians. IT shocked me. Some of them were talking nasty but some were having real conversations. I hadnt really thought about being gay before. I didn't think about being straight either. I got a private message from a girl calling herself Abby. I didn't really know what to say and she just asked me about me and hobbies and such. Then she asked "so are you gay/bi?" "I dont know" that's what I always said. "well do you like girls or guys" Still didn't know. I was brought up to marry a guy, don't even think thoughts like that about girls. But thinking back I had never liked guys in "that" way and only wanted to kiss some girls. So i nervously typed "girls." She said "me too :)" I didn't know why someone would be happy about that. I felt so horrible. It's a sin I told myself. I heard something in the hall and exed out of the chatroom. I never talked to her again. I wasn't absoulutely positive until I started falling in love with my best friend. You know the story, one day they just seem so great and beautiful and it just grows and grows. She was at my house and she said she wanted to practice kissing. Alot of her friends did it she said. I didnt care she was asking me to kiss her!!! I was so unbelievably happy but kept humble and said "ok" So we kissed and it was so undescribably perfect. She told me I was a bad kisser which totally shamed me. Then she laughed and said "just kidding". Then we watched Ellen Degeneres and never talked about it. I was absolutely sure by that morning that if thats what being gay felt like then i wasnt ashamed at all. Later we discussed the whole gay thing and I told her I thought I was a lesbian and she said she was cool with it. I haven't talked to her since. And one more thing to this really long piece of work, the one thing that made me settled in my newfound glory of finding my sexuality was coming on oasismag :)

antinous's picture

Minutes after the moment I knew

I'm not sure I should be doing this. The pages of this journal are quite literally yellowed, and this is the first entry I ever wrote, dated Wednesday, April 13, 1994. I was eighteen years old.

I know the theme is "The Moment You Knew," but this really was. I only came out to myself five minutes before coming out to another person. I was very deeply in denial, and when that wall broke, it broke very suddenly and completely.

The only changes have been to change the names and to remove content that may not be suitable for all audiences. The removals do not materially affect the story.

Hey, you,

I thought would be an appropriate christening for this - journal, diary, whatever - that I've been nagging myself to start for quite some time now. I guess it's so I can occasionally look back and see where I've come from. Well, I guess I ought to recap recent events. Saturday night I got drunk, and while sitting in the middle of the JHU baseball field at four in the morning, I told Sarah I was gay. It wasn't easy. She wasn't shocked. I was kinda hoping for more response from the person whom I tell first - you know, something to tell the grandkids about. I talked with her until 5:30 am, then went back to my dorm and took a shower. I wasn't really drunk anymore, unfortunately. I told Sean Sunday night at midnight. He was unfazed. Damn, when am I going to get a reaction? Monday night I called Rob and tried to tell him but couldn't. This is so strange, so fucking foreign... I don't think I make a very good faggot. I only know what I feel, and that's that I prefer men over women. I can't explain it. I've known for five years. All I can say is that it's just me. I'm just that way. I have spring fever in a way I never imagined possible. And then there's that crazy fucked up suitemate situation. Who am I writing to? Anyway, Peter's my protection. I need a gay guy in the suite in order to provide a reason to get another suitemate who's open to having homosexual suitemates. I hope Eddie's the man. My #1 concern, however, is protecting Peter. I talked to Rob about this, but his attitude was "hush-hush," and I tend to disagree with him. This is SO fucked up.

I'd blame this whole in-the-closet thing for my reduced performance in the classroom, except there isn't any. I think I really did well on that physics exam, but I won't say so in public, because these insecure jackasses in my hall wil have a hissy fit over it. I want to fuck Carl Chang. And while I'm at it, I'll fit in Steve Chang. And Renee's boyfriend. And that absolutely stunningly beautiful boy whom I saw at Dale's party on Saturday night and who is a friend of Les's. No way in hell he's gay, though. Oh well, women are always complaining that the best ones are always gay. I'm waiting to discover who these men are that they're referring to.

I'm really scared. I don't know how to be gay. I'm so totally naive - what if I get "taken advantage of?" I need a blow, though.

What am I doing?

utter_insanity's picture

When I realized it

I first realized that I'm gay when I was in sixth grade. It was October 2005. I was reading a comic book, and I found myself staring at the girls in the book. I thought innocent things like, "Ooh, she's really pretty." All of a sudden, I realized what I was doing. I was staring at other girls' bodies. And the crazy thing was, I liked it. I had had many more of these weird feelings during my life before this moment, but I had just pushed them away back then. This was the moment I realized, though, that I couldn't deny it any more. I liked girls.

I hid behind the "bisexual" label for eight months, surfing LGBT web pages and learning about what being gay means. I told myself that since I had supposedly had crushed on boys before, I had to like guys. But in May 2006, I suddenly realized that I was, in fact, gay. The "crushes" on guys that I had before weren't really crushes at all. All of the guys I had liked before were merely friends who I felt a deep affection for. They also tended to be shorter and skinnier than me, not to mention slightly girly looking. These crushes I had on boys weren't special, unlike the ones I got on girls. Whenever I saw a pretty girl, it felt like magic was in the air; when I saw a cute guy, I thought, "Meh. Whatever."

It may have taken me a while to get out of denial about this, but I'm sort of glad I pretended to be bisexual. This way, I got used to my sexuality at my own pace. However, I'm still glad I finally accepted the fact that I'm gay. Denial may have helped me get used to myself, but I still feel like an idiot whenever I look back at my memories of my "bisexual" phase. Sometimes when I reminisce, I want to scream at my stupid younger self, who couldn't understand what was going on inside her own head.


"Women in rubber will ALWAYS be flirting with me!" --Maureen in the musical RENT

pomegranate's picture

in answer to jeff

well, obviously, when I started to crush on girls LOL and I was like whoa!!! boys?maybe girls?gimme - well at least that's how i feel now, but maybe that's just cuz i met someone(a girl) I tOTaLly LiKe!!!

commander147's picture

hmm that's easy... The first

hmm that's easy... The first real day of junior year of highschool... 7Th period... about 30 minutes in.... when I couldn't stop staring at this totally gorgeous (tho I didnt know the term then) emo/goth boy... I mean... I knew... that well.... boys were always really cute... and girls were... meh... but that was the moment it crystalized...

I believe that when we leave a place, a part of it goes with us, and a part of us remains. Go anywhere in this place, when it is quiet, and just listen. After a while you will hear the echoes of all our conversations: every thought and word we've exchange

william t's picture

knew i knew

i belive that i new before i knew like i knew that i like boy's and didn't that tha ment that i was gay untill my sis ask who i thought was cute on tv and that when i knew it was like WOW I'm GAY cool!

Love and peace

Icarus's picture

it interesting because i

it interesting because i never had this huge moment of understanding. well, i did confess tearfully to my father once when i was ten that i thought i was gay, but other than that....

anyway, to me it feels like i always knew. didn't always have a name for it, but always knew. i've always had crushes on girls, with a slight attraction to a male every once in a while. i never dreamed of having some wedding to my husband. never wanted to play house (although i think that was just my feminist side showing, who wants to pretend to do something we'll be doing in reality in 20 years???) i always found the female form attractive.

i think i came to the realization i was gay when i was about thirteen. it wasn't a huge deal to me, it was just kind of, "hey, you're gay..."

so yeah....that's it....

"Yes! No! Oh, damn!"

andyouwillknowmebythesoundofmyname's picture

Yes! No! Oh, damn!

That sounds like me.
I still go through these cartwheels every time I come out to someone new.
it goes a bit like this...
1) Wow, it's getting real now, they know I am queer
2) Wait...I can't be queer because...... because..... uhhhh
(thousands of images of beautiful women zip through my head)
.....wait... damn! I am queer!
3) Yes! No! Why? What now?
4) Okay, this is me. This I can handle..... I think.....

then comes the really fun part where I get asked the dumb questions about gayness....because I am the great authority on all things gay, of course

dreamers imagine someday's picture

I was 3, when I figured out

I was 3, when I figured out I was different. By the time I was in the seventh grade I knew I was gay.

When I was three, my grandpa use to take me to see his WWII buddies and their grandchildren. One day, the other grandchildren and me were playing. The boys decided to play war. While the girls wanted to play house. This was one of the first times I was ever playing with other children. I didn't like the ide of house, so I played war. I liked it, playing that. Over time I had a preference for "boy things", I started to think I was suppose to be a boy. Nobody really cared, but that was when my grandparents were raising me. It wasn't till my parents were finally able to keep me at age 4 when I found out that people could get angry about little girls doing boy stuff. My mom and dad were furious when they found out. I didn't know why they were so angry. Eventually my mom forced me to do girl stuff, cooking wasn't so bad, but the skirts were evil. I wasn't happy. I didn't like the fact that I wasn't able to do the things I like, that stayed that way till I was in seventh grade.

In seventh grade, I met a very great girl, Allyn. She eventually became a he. He told me, I didn't have to listen to my mom. He told me I could be a boy if I wanted to. For a long time I thought that I did, but eventually I figure out that I didn't want to be a boy. I just wanted to be a girl who did boy things. Slowly, I developed a crush on one of my friends. I asked Allyn what was that about. Then she said it bluntly, "Aren't you gay?" Me in my fairly naive state, didn't know what that meant. She then started asking me a bunch of questions like, "would you want to kiss a girl or a boy?" I answered a girl to everyone. Then he said, "You are as gay as the sky is blue." I didn't want to believe it, because I knew what the church thought about it, and I knew what happened to my cousins who were gay. But I ended up accepting it in the end. Now I am a Senior in an all girl school, my whole school knows. The only people who doesn't know would be family. But I know my grandpa would have been fine with it, he didn't care who I liked or what I wanted to be like, he only cared that I was happy. But he died shortly after I was returned to the custody of my parents, I miss him still.

V is the bomb, he blows with anarchy!!!

andyouwillknowmebythesoundofmyname's picture

wow, that sounds a lot like what I went through

I remember being in that same place, only when they asked me if I would rather kiss a boy or a girl, I knew that they wouldn't like me if I said the "wrong" thing.
I was already pretty unpopular because I refused outright to go boy-crazy and get obsessed with nail polish and looking pretty and things like that.
That's about when I started kicking myslef whenever I thought about girls.
I started doing that before I even thought that there were other people like me, that it was okay. All I could think about was that they would treat me even worse if I was different in a way that they found threatening.

I decided to take a peek in the closet.
What a suprise to find myself hiding inside!

whateversexual_llama's picture

I can't remember when I

I can't remember when I realized I wasn't straight.
It was somewhere around 6th grade...
Or was it fifth?
The line between not knowing and knowing is fuzzy... maybe because it didn't matter.

It was when I knew that it was right, when I knew that it was safe and beautiful and totally, totally me, that was the real moment of clarity, the moment that stands out.

8th grade. Earlier this year. Sitting in science class. The guy next to me turned and asked, "Are you gay?"
And I said yes. And I wasn't scared. And I didn't care what his reaction was. And I didn't care who overheard.

And from then on, my answer was always yes. Yes, I'm gay. In the word yes, said with my head held high, were a hundred other answers. Yes, I'm human. Yes, I'm real. Yes, I'm in love. Yes, I'm happy. Yes, I'm confident.

And that's when I knew. Not when I knew I was gay, that was years before. That was the moment when I knew that it was all going to be okay.

Whatever I did, I didn't do it.

ReinbowGrl's picture

The moment I knew...Did I ever know??

I think I knew way too young to even realize that I knew. I grew up playing house at a private daycare run by a mother who had, at the time, two daughters my age. It was the younger daughter that always wanted to play "house". For some reason, this always resulted in me being the husband and her being the wife. Which resulted in what kids think sex is...lots and lots of random moments with the lights off and too much saliva. I blame her. Not in an angry way...Just in a wondering way. I wonder sometimes what would have happened if I had not played those little girl games of fake marriages. Would I have been straight like her? Would my life be easier, like hers? Would I be less depressed, would I fight with my parents less? Would everything be different if I wasn't gay?
I had a girlfriend before I ever had a boyfriend. Nothing intimate, it was long distance. And for a very long time, I thought I was bi. Until the day came when I was leaving the boy, whom I once thought was the man of my dreams, for a girl. I had liked this boy for over a year, but I craved excitement. And then suddenly, I was madly in love with a girl at the grand old age of 13. And there are days when I wonder if I am not in fact, still in love with this amazing girl who rocked my world when we were mere children. She was…She is…I am still speechless and it’s been almost 3 years.
Eventually, this magickal creature and I broke up and I was left with a broken heart. By then, I knew I was gay, that I may like boys every once and a while, but I would only be able to love a woman. Heartbreak heals slowly. I thought after she left that I wouldn’t be able to love anybody; that I would still be crying myself to sleep in 5 years. I was devastated. Because you see, she was more than just a first love, she was my best friend and she still is. But the real moment that I knew…that I knew I would be okay being me…Happened almost two years ago. I was cuddled up with my current girlfriend and I was telling her every secret my heart had harbored for so many years. And that’s when I figured out what love was like. Not the dysfunctional roller coaster from my past, but the love that would heal previous wounds and make me forget all others before her. And now, I know that I will spend the rest of my life with her