The other book you mentioned in your book is The Celestine Prophecy, which I've never read...

You need to read it.

Really?

Please read it. It's way faster to read than my book.

Well, I've been on a whole spiritual kick, with all the Wayne Dyer stuff, which is why I really decided to recommit to the site, because it seemed like I was always doing everything from a place of motivation instead of inspiration, and it seemed there is a much purer energy you bring to something you're inspired to do instead of something you have to do.

A very good point.

Is that something that is addressed in the Celestine Prophecy?

I think that idea would come out of reading The Celestine Prophecy. The book is really about paying attention to energy, that you're made up of energy, and that whatever you believe created us created us out of energy. It's paying attention to how that energy works, how the flow works between two people, in particular. And, after reading the book, you understand the power of your own energy and how the things that you say and the way that you move and the way that you conduct your life is going to have a direct effect on the kinds of energy that come into your body and into your soul. It's a metaphysical book.

Is it a self-help book or more of a narrative book?

It tells the story of a man who goes in a journey that he can't refuse. He's doing one thing and he ends up in the middle of this situation that he never thought he would be in the day before and he has to keep going because the signs keep popping up that he has to keep going. And, through it, you learn all of the insight of the Celestine Prophecy for basically a better way to live.

A lot of people are hesitant, I even do it myself, to bring up their spirituality around people. You think it will make people tense, that you're pulling the God card on them.

I know why people feel that way. The right wing and part of the Christian community has robbed gay people of our spirituality and made us believe God isn't ours. They made us believe that God is only theirs. And, frankly, no one can take our spirituality from us unless we let them; and I'm not letting anyone take it away. If I have to be ashamed to say I'm spiritual, or say that I believe in god, or there is a god who guides me in my life, I think I'm letting those right-wing Christians win if I'm embarrassed to say that.

I think by the same token, they've also robbed other Christians of a more broad, all-encompassing, inclusive God.

I was raised Christian, I'm a confirmed Catholic. There is absolutely no way anyone can speak for Christianity or Jesus himself, who Christianity is based off of, would ever discriminate or treat people the way these so-called Christians treat people. Christianity is not about taking rights away from people. It is not about segregation, and it is about accepting and forgiving everyone. These people who are calling themselves Christians in the right wing are not Christians. They're not.

How did the Amazing Race happen?

We didn't really know much about The Amazing Race. We had seen it on TV or maybe a commercial a couple of times, but it was random. It was one of these Celestine moments. I was in a restaurant in West Hollywood and this guy walked up to me and said, "Hey would you consider being on this show, The Amazing Race? I'm a casting director for it." And I said, 'Sure, what is it?' He said it was a race around the world and he said, are you gay? Do you have a partner, a father, a brother that looks like you? And I said, Oh, I have a husband named Chip. He said would you please go into CBS tomorrow and have an interview, so we went in and then had a week of grueling castings from IQ tests to screen tests to immunizations and drug tests. They had to make sure we were completely clean of everything. And then we had to go through a lot of interviews on-camera and off-camera, and they picked us to be on the show. It was very random. We never asked to be on there. We never sent a video in.

Unlike those bastards at Survivor that never got back to me... So, everyone always complains on reality shows about the editing and 'that wasn't how it happened.'

I feel that does exist to some degree in other teams. However, we got really good editing. They left out a lot because they have to, but we got true-to-life editing. They portrayed us the way we actually are.

Would you do it again, if there was ever Amazing Race All-Stars or something?

No, I won't be doing All Stars, and that's all I'll be saying about that.

And, since I didn't get on Survivor and win the million, what do you actually take home when you do?

I got half because of Chip, and it came out to about $280,000 after all the taxes.

But certainly good footing to explore other career opportunities.

That's right.

Aside from the book, what do you consider your main occupation?

I don't really have a label for myself. Since I left the Air Force and stopped flying, I've left the label behind and I just do what makes me happy and what supports me. I have a hold in the modeling industry and that supports me, and I continue to model. I have a great agent. I love acting. I love studying acting. I love doing the soaps. Days of our Lives is my favorite to do, and the rest is just passion. Go after and do whatever needs to be done. For me, it is my God-given mission, I believe, to lift the ban on gays in the military in this country.