GODDAMNIT

lostinthisworld's picture

well I havent posted in a bit, but I HAVE been looking at what all you other people have been posting. It seems that the majority of you are here to rant about how you're crushing on her, but you dont want her to know that you're gay. or that you like him, but you dont wanna tell him you're bi. i know how all of you feel, but i just wonder... wouldnt life be easier if we could all just be out and proud (i know some of you are) and let the world know what we ARE gay or bi or whatever. i think that as who we are, we get discriminated against unfairly and i dont like that. to make myself feel better, i think i might become the first ever women president and change all the state laws about same sex marrige. i mean come on. is it really that bad that that girl over there likes that one shes hanging out with? (or possibly going out with?) or is it so hard to believe that some of us were born differently than that striat girl or boy playing basketball?
i just thought of someting Pocahontas said to John Smith. well, she was all pissed that he calle dher./her people savages, and she went and climed the tree. then he tried to follow her and make up for what he said cuz he is starting to like her. so then he falls, stands up, and she walks over and says "what you mean, is not like you" and i am like OMG I LUV YOU POCAHONTAS! except not cuz shes ded and otherwise i'd be in love with some drawing on a notepad. so anyway. my point of this is that im upset about being hated for who i really am. it doesnt seem right. well at least not to me. i guess if its agains your religeon thats ok, but what if you ARE that religeon and you ARE gay? what are you going to do then? pretend to be strait for your parents sake? then get a girlfriend or boyfriend and just come home one day saying im gay, only to get thrown out of your house?

too many questions. anyone got answers?
...or just thoughts on top of this. either or's ok with me.

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sugarmagnolia's picture

part of my motivation in comi

part of my motivation in coming out was so that perhaps some people would be like "she's gay, and doesn't fit my stereotypes, so maybe my stereotypes are wrong" but a lot of the homophobic people i know, i can't come out to yet. such as my parents. i've noticed in my area it's not even so much hatred of gays, as much as the constant expectation of everyone to be straight, and a feeling of "if you're not straight, we won't hate you for it, we just pity you" ugh.
it's strange, being gay shouldn't be a big deal, it's just a difference of who you're attracted to, and yet socially and culturally, it really is a big deal.

"freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose"

tamerett's picture

It's like that where I live,

It's like that where I live, too. Also, I've noticed that many people who say that they "don't hate gays" have a tendency to expect gay people not to express affection or attraction in the open. When they do, they get their undies in a bunch about how "it's disgusting".

I think it's this kind of subtle hatred that contributes to people not wanting to come out.

I may be up the creek without a paddle, but at least I'm in a canoe.

Barralai's picture

a few more spaces in your typ

a few more spaces in your typing would have made it easier to read, but i think that you right, but you have to ask yourself isnt this was most people who frequent this site tend to be of a younger generation, who are mostly worried about that kind of stuff.

As your for you second comment on pride, and coming out, i might point to people like Matthew Sheppard who was murdered because he was gay. I think thats the main reason people dont (rejecition, and its consequences).

As your question of whether or it not GLBTism is bad, I personnaly believe no, but its a very "hot-button" issue, in this day and age,.

As for as religion goes, i think that is for sure completely subjunctive I would suggest to you that you examine what you personally believe, many religious leaders disagree on issues, and i am certain you will not find two people in the whole world who believe exactly the same thing.

I feel that personally jumping the gun to fast is a bad mistake, I tread lightly until I am financially independent, which will be (more or less) several years, patience is a virtue.
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jojojo's picture

yay go for the presidency! I'

yay go for the presidency! I'd vote for you (If I kind of like your other points..) but I am not American. too bad in that case. But I can campaign for you ;-)

I like what you write. I don't understand how people have problems with (other people) being gay. Especially if I start thinking about it. The more I think about it the less I understand...

I don't understand the Pocahontas sentence "what you mean, is not like you". Can you explain please?? Seems like this is a very touching sentence.

We have all been injured, profoundly. (Donna Haraway)
I Am Out, Therefore I Am. (Okay, mostly.)

lostinthisworld's picture

well

ok so Pocahontas was all pissed that John Smith called her and her people savages, right? right. so he then tries to make up for it and is all like "uhm i mean.. i guess... no i mean...." and because he's at such a loss for words, she then comes up and says "what you mean, is not like you." and then she sings colors of the wind. yay.

Hobbit's picture

yeah, i get what you mean abo

yeah, i get what you mean about people just being expected to be straight. i know that people at my school are pretty tolerant, but there is still the overall idea that being gay is a big deal. i know that is why for me, i envision coming out a school further down the road.

hugs, luck, and peace

I lost two cities, lovely ones. And, vaster,
some realms I owned, two rivers, a continent.
I miss them, but it wasn't a disaster.

raining men's picture

Hmmmmm

Hmmmm. Nice ideas, but how many gay people are killed daily in Camerroon? Or saudi arabia? Let us even point to the inevitable matthew shepard or the many suicidal gay teens. True a lot of the time people are pointlessly scared of coming out. But often it isn't worth the trouble it causes
And don't trust pocahanotas. In reality she was barely dressed, 12 years old and left john smith for someone else a year later

"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suf-fer-ing"

whateversexual_llama's picture

I think that it's not as bad

I think that it's not as bad as we make it to be. I mean, for a lot of people it is, for matthew sheapard it was, blah blah blah, but really. I know that America is dehumanizing us by taking away the right to marry, but at least we aren't being imprisoned, or lawfully killed.

Not that I'm saying we shouldn't take a stand. We should, but I think a lot of us are emoing about nothing.

And on another note entirely, I know that the people you hang out with aren't homophobic. Sure, they're normal, they say "Oh that's gay," but they won't think of you any differently. I promise.

Be yourself. Because if you're busy being someone else, then who's gonna be you?

Pixiecorpse6's picture

just adding my thoughts...

That pocahantas thing actually makes a lot of sense. I never really thought of it that way. I mean, the straight world seems to think it has to be their way, and that anything different should be changed. Kind of like the settlers. And well, we did take over north america and change everything to fit our way of life. I hate to think what it would have been like, being forced to live a straight life while inside you knew that's not the way it's meant to be for you. In the past few decades homosexuality has taken a huge turn. Schools allow GSA clubs, some countries (like my own) allow gay marraige.

I know there's still a lot of ignorance in the world. I've met people who insisted homosexuality can and should be 'fixed'. I've known kids who have been ebaten up for their sexuality, and this happing just within the past few years. I don't know who this Matthew Shepperd is, or when this happened, but it truly is a shame. I rest my hopes in that tolerance will keep growing until one day, it's respected just the same as heterosexuality.

Anyway. This probably has nothing to do with anything. Just saying what's on my mind right now. I'd add more, but my friend wants me to try some of her clothes on O_O so. love you all: Pixie

"We all go where the rainbow goes. Something something Pot of Gold!"

TeeAhr1's picture

Agreed!

Every reason people have given in the comments for not coming out is another reason that we all need to come the fuck out already. Bigots get away with it because they've got the numbers on their side. Until that balance shifts, until we as a people make more noise than they do, nothing's gonna change.

Yes, it's hard as hell. Yes, I got beat up in high school too, I'm not just talking out my asshole here. Yes, sometimes people die. How bad do we want it?
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