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Why do the main characters have to be gay?
~Domo Arigato, Mr. Roboto!~
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Well, for one thing, because I'm interested to see what's out there. I've read a ton of scifi fantasy with straight main characters and I want to see if there's anything good with gay main characters. Why SHOULDN'T the main characters be gay? I'm certainly open to general recommendations as well.
Fantasy Novel featuring Young Gay Heroes
I've just published my first novel, Orphan's Quest. It is the first volume of an epic Fantasy trilogy called Chronicles of Firma which features young gay heroes. You can check it out and order signed copies on my website:
http://www.samersguild.com.
It will be on Amazon.com and other online bookstores soon, but my price is lower and all my copies come autographed free of charge. There's also a link on my site called "Spread the Word". This leads to a flyer that you can download and post wherever you think it might generate some sales for me. Since I'm a new author, and doing all my own publicity and marketing, this would help me out a great deal. If anyone has a webpage of their own and would like to link to mine, that would also be great.
Hope you enjoy the book! Volume two, Scion's Blood is already in the works.
Pat Nelson Childs
"Bringing strong gay & lesbian
characters to Sci-Fi & Fantasy"
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what's the title of the movie???
"you're not finish if you loose, but
you're finish if you quit"
Uh. . .sorta, kinda
Part #1- http://uimidir1a.blogspot.com/
Part #2- http://uimidir1.blogspot.com/
Part #3- http://uimidir.blogspot.com/
The illustrations-
http://photobucket.com/albums/a24/Morgan665/
Alternative, wacky, irreverent, some sections are good, some aren't, but the series covers everything and then some, as far as relationships go. Suggest you read 'The Wooing Of Etain'
( http://www.mc.maricopa.edu/~tomshoemaker/celtic/Etain.html )
before starting the series, though; to know the history of the characters. It's an Irish myth elaborated, if you pardon the self-promo. But hey! It doesn't cost anything.
I know of a diff. genre
I know that there's a really good manga that's centered around two gay men, it's called Gravitation. It's pretty good, the funny thing is, is that i used to not like it because at that time i was insecure about my sexuality.
Dune
Baron Harkonnen in the Dune series is gay. He's the main villain. Count Fenring (minor character) is bisexual. Granted, both of them are evil and I think their homosexuality is supposed to be perverse. Are there any non-perverse gays in Dune?
You're right.
You're right. Harkonnen's homosexuality is supposed to make him all the more sick and twisted. There aren't any positive gay portrayals in Dune as far as I know.
- Pat Nelson Childs
www.samersguild.com
Well...
The Fishspeakers in God Emperor of Dune are lesbians, I think. They're an Amazon-like army that has orgies. I don't think they're protrayed negatively.
Anyway, that's the biggest fault I find in Dune, even though I really like it. There should be a positive gay portrayal...
This has driven me crazy for years
This has driven me crazy for years. Besides Mercedes Lackey's Last Herald Mage Trilogy and the Nightrunner trilogy by Lynn Flewelling, about the only time you see gay characters in Sci-Fi or Fantasy are as freaks or psychos, or else in such minor roles as to be completely forgetable. That's why I've decided that all of my novels are going to star strong, positive gay characters. It's not because I have anything against heterosexuals, but there's ten thousand other people out there writing SF and Fantasy novels with straight heroes. They don't need me. By making this the focus of my writing career, I figure I'm helping my community as well as putting out (hopefully) good work. I hope that one day there'll be other gay writers who'll tackle this genre. For some reason, the only genre fiction you see from gay authors now are either mysteries or vampire stories. I mean, I like a good gay vampire story as much as the next person, but come on. Ok, that's enough bitching. Buy my book, y'all. :-)
- Pat Nelson Childs
www.samersguild.com
Rice
You mean Anne Rice & Christopher Rice? heh
SUM BOOKZ
Hey guys... i dont know if this would technically be classified as "fantasy"... but they are pretty magical and fantastickal! LOL
The "Dangerous Angels" series by Francesca Lia Block:
the first book is called "Weetzie Bat". There are 2 gay male characters in it, and they appear in every book in the series. but one of the books, "Baby Be-Bop" completely focuses on one of the gay boyz (outlining his life story and struggle with his identity, etc. kinda like a prequel to the first book)
And someone above mentioned Anne Rice. I've only read "The Claiming of Sleeping Beauty", and id recommend it, but be FOREWARNED. it is quite sexually VIOLENT. it has lots of sadism and bondage and pain and stuff... which some ppl are into! but hey, others are disturbed by it. It has like, girls whipping and fucking other girls, guys ass-raping eachother, straight sex, group sex, and all kinds of other crazy stuff. Worth ur while.
ANNE RICE
Another great Anne Rice work (besides the Vampire Chronicles) is Cry to Heaven. It's all about the castrati, the castrated boys that used to sing in the Italian church choirs. The characters aren't really gay in the modern sense, but there is plenty of homoerotic content. Nothing explicit like the Sleeping Beauty books. It's a great read though. I highly recommend it.
- Pat Nelson Childs
www.samersguild.com
A few books...
In Julian May's "the Saga of Pliocene Exile" series, one of the main characters, Felice, is a lesbian. Actually, she's called a homophile (the books were written in the 80's) and she's a bit psychotic and power-hungry, but she certainly isn't the villian. I mean, she's not portrayed in an incredibly negative way, and I've always been rather fond of her. :) At one point the author compares her to Artemis; she's kinda like a feminist whose feminist attitude is on steroids. And she is part of the group of protagonists. It's sci-fi, by the way.
"Fires of the Faithful" and its sequel "Turning the Storm" are fantasy books whose main character is a lesbian. They're not amazing, but they're pretty good--enjoyable, anyhow.
Also, Anne McCaffery's "Dragonriders of Pern" series contains bit gay characters.
Hope that helps!
Felice
Felice was one of my favorite characters in the books.
Man does she ever kick ass. =)
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Adrian
Putting the HEAD back into Hedonism
It's cute how you believe in things. - Slither
There's a lesbian couple in
There's a lesbian couple in Tamora Pierce's Circle of Magic series, although it's never explicitly stated that they're together, and one of the main characters is gay, although that doesn't happen until Will of the Empress (the last book).
Come on and stand/Come on now, stand/Come on and stand/Plant your sword in the sand/In this age of unreason/There's a time and a season for love/Stand.
--The Kennedys
There's also a secondary
There's also a secondary lesbian character in her Protector of the Small series.
Come on and stand/Come on now, stand/Come on and stand/Plant your sword in the sand/In this age of unreason/There's a time and a season for love/Stand.
--The Kennedys
There is? Who? I can't think
There is? Who? I can't think of anyone. Granted, I haven't read them in about five years, but I was pretty obsessed with them--I would've noticted that, I think...
Kel's maid, Lalasa (I think
Kel's maid, Lalasa (I think that was her name – it's also been about four or five years since I've read them <_<). She and the dressmaker – Tian, I think the name was? – are together.
Come on and stand/Come on now, stand/Come on and stand/Plant your sword in the sand/In this age of unreason/There's a time and a season for love/Stand.
--The Kennedys
really?
Have to read the book again now -- never noticed that! Kel expresses a pretty clear support of that sort of relationship, though. And yes, the Circle of Magic books and Will of the Empress have lesbian characters.
~~~ the voice of your eyes is deeper than all roses ~ e e cummings ~~~
Dryland's End
Dryland's End by Felice Picano has a whole society that is based on same-sex relationships. It's kind of a space opera, but it has lots of fantasy elements thrown in.
I recommend the Silent
I recommend the Silent Empire books by Steven Harper. It's a pretty good space sci fi. All sentient minds are connected to a place called The Dream, and without them it would cease to exist. Only a small percentage of genetically gifted beings, called the Silent, can consciously access it. The main protagonist is gay.
http://www.amazon.com/Dreamers-Silent-Empire-Steven-Harper/dp/0451458435
http://www.amazon.com/Nightmare-Silent-Empire-Steven-Harper/dp/045145898...
http://www.amazon.com/Trickster-Silent-Empire-Steven-Harper/dp/045145941...
http://www.amazon.com/Offspring-Silent-Empire-Steven-Harper/dp/045146001...
Also the NARC Series by Mel Keegan, another space sci fi, the two main characters, a gay male couple, are Co-captains in the paramilitary force NARC, they're battling the drug syndicate that manufactures and distributes a lethal drug called Angel.
http://www.amazon.com/Deaths-Head-Mel-Keegan/dp/0854492909
http://www.amazon.com/Equinox-Mel-Keegan/dp/0854492003
Another book by Mel Keegan, Aquamarine is more possible future than sci fi, in the not too distant future, the world is mostly water. On the floating city-state Pacifica a new race has been engineered, Aquarians, who can breath under water. The two main characters is again a gay male couple, one of whom is an Aquarian.
http://www.amazon.com/Aquamarine-Mel-Keegan/dp/1902852141
There's Do Over, a really good online series by Dan Kirk. Involves time travel and alternate timelines.
http://dkstories.gayauthors.org/
I haven't had as much luck finding good fantasy with gay characters. I probably couldn't name anything you haven't heard of before. Maybe I just have to look harder.
books to read and help request!
Heh I was searching for new gay fantasy books to read and came across this posting...heartily second the "Last Herald-Mage" and "Nightrunner" recomendations and also add in Diane Duane's "Tale of the Five" series starting with "Door into Fire". Storm Constantine's "Wraeththu" books (now a double trilogy!!) must be read, they are truly inspired with lots of positive energy and my favorite fantasy future earth story. The first is called "The Enchantments of Flesh and Spirit". Also published as a 3-in-1 called simply "Wraeththu".
Now reading "Kirin Kirith" on advice from a friend...it started out slow with lots of backstory right at the begining but is really turning into an enchanting fantasy world. A young country lad is taken off to be the new temple boy for a powerful warrior who happens to be needing a boyfriend and gets so much more than he wishes...lots more to it and I'm just getting started!
Now can someone help me out? A friend had a gay themed barbarian type book that started out with a group of guys kind of almost rescuing/kidnapping a young man and taking him with them off to an adventure...he was put on a horse behind a dark sinewy warrior wearing nothing but a strip of cloth looped between his legs and over his shoulder with a big ropy scar on his back. What an awesome image! I just had a chance to peak at the first bit and now can't remember the title!! Help? Anybody?
I can think of a dozen
I can think of a dozen authors or more who write predominantly or just really excellent gay fantasy or sci-fi.
These are authors where most/all of their books have a variety of characters of all sexualities, major and minor. A good percentage have out-and-out queer heroes.
Mercedes Lackey
Fiona Patton
Tanya Huff
Melissa Scott
Lisa A. Barnett
Lynn Flewelling
These are authors who've written outstanding gay-hero literature that isn't part of their normal body of work, but excels anyway.
Diana Gabaldon, Lord John and the Private Matter
Peter Lefcourt, The Dreyfus Affair
Hope this helps!
One of the best i can
One of the best i can possibly recomend is the SAGA OF THE RENUNCIATES by Marion Zimmer Bradley. The two main heroins are a lesbian couple, and its quality fantast/scifi, not at all trashy. She's done a bunch of other stuff, although most of her blatently GLBT stuff is done under pen names, which you can find easily on Wiki if you care to.
I think she's even done some stuff w/ Mercedes Lackey.
Enjoy ; )
This site has a lot of good
This site has a lot of good recommendations. http://www.glbtfantasy.com/
"Nobody can make you feel inferior without your consent!"
-Eleanor Roosevelt
Ricardo Pinto
Ricardo Pinto's "dance of the stone camelian" has been a recent favorite of mine - The chosen, the standing dead and now his new book The Third god, are well worth the read. You glbt content doesn't really appear till the end of the first book but then becomes a major turning point there on in.
-Danu
The Torchwood novels are
The Torchwood novels are pretty good, but they are even better if you watch the show along with it. Captain Jack Harkness and Ianto Jones are awesome as a couple. Plus pretty much every main character is bi-sexual. The series is written by Russell T. Davies after all.
"When you're a kid, they tell you it's all... grow up. Get a job. Get married. Get a house. Have a kid, and that's it. But the truth is, the world is so much stranger than that. It's so much darker. And so much madder. And so much better. " Doctor Who