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CaliMan's picture

I really like the discussions on this site and I kinda want to start one now. My question to you is as followed.

Why do you think you are GLBT?

Also, for many years we have heard from the Christian right and other religious fundalmentalists talk about the ex gay programs. My questions is as followed.

Can a person change their sexuality? Now, I hope you do not errupt in anger at this question since I bet I share the thoughts of the majority members of the group on this one. But I am just curious of what your thoughts on this are.

Ok all, ummmmmmm whats ur thought?

corcra-carraig's picture

Why do I think I am GLBT?

Why do I think I am GLBT?
Because my feelings fit the description I am given of Lesbians. I honestly don't like sexuality and gender being an issue, but for what it's worth it makes things easier. Others thought I was a lesbian before it ever occured to me to label myself one.

Can people change thier sexuality?
Change it? No. I don't think so. They will always be what they are, striaghts will be straights, gays will be gays. You can however oppress your feelings and emotions, and therefore gays can put on a front htat they are straight etc... They can fully believe that they are straight, however what they are is what they are. Those who psych themselves and others out usually collapse that front eventually. It's too much emotion and feeling to forget.
Good Disscusion questions.

hellonwheels's picture

well...

First off, What is your stance? I think I know. I'm just wonderin. As for me, I believe sexuality is a choice for those who are bi. For true, that is to say not bi, gays and lesbians, I do not believe we choose our sexuality...I sure as hell didn't choose to be gay, and believe me, I've tried to be straight...I really have. I think, though it is not a choice to be gay or to be straight, you DO make the choice to indulge in your sexuality and to have a same-sex relationship, so to an extent, the conservatives are right...It's kin dof like the old rush lyric...You can choose some ready guide in some celestial voice, if you choose not to decide, you still have made the choice. That's my two cents. Agree or not, I'd love to see others opinions on this topic too. L8r.

phantasmagoria's picture

well apperently people fall o

well apperently people fall on a spectrum (genetically) and those with stronger genetic tendencies towrds homosexuality cannot comfortably exist being "straight", but those who are more in the middle of the spectrum can, and often do, act straight- this is because, fairly obviously, of the cultural push towards heterosexulaity. I have read that some people have indeed been knnown to change their sexuality, but these people were probably, unlike most people who come out, not that strongly genetically predisposed towards homosexuality. Also, I don't think that it is a constant thing, its flexible, so in that sense, though not of their own volition, people can change their sexual orientation over their life time. As for choosing an orientation, i don't think thats possible, or a healthy idea to entertain.
In this Scientific American Mind issue theres an artcle about this, but interesting as it was, it didn't really say much (unless it went over my head). there is however, an enitirely pointless "how gay are you?" test: http://www.sciammind.com/page.cfm?section=quiz

raining men's picture

Nope

You cannot change your sexuality. it has always been impossible to change who you are sexually attracted to, in the same way you cannot consciously change what colours you like. It may be possible to have subconsious, changing sexuality, but I've personally never been convinced

"Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suf-fer-ing"

Duncan's picture

I dunno. I have two cousins w

I dunno. I have two cousins who are, so I guess there may be some truth to the idea of sexuality being sorta hereditary. And, no you can't change your orientation. You can change your behaviour, as in what you do, but the sexuality, what you truly feel, doesn't change.

the mouse that roared's picture

girls are pretty

ergo, I am queer. End of story. Why do you think someone's straight? It's kind of pointless to think about.

People cannot control who they are attracted to. To the extent that their attractions change, a person's sexuality inevitably changes with a new crush/love/lust whatever. But I don't think that's really a person actively changing it.

Are you hanging on to something useless just because you think it's beautiful?
--William Zinsser

grey_n_blue_stars's picture

I don't know why I'am GLBT an

I don't know why I'am GLBT and I don't really care cause it's who I'am and even though I'm not all that happy with it right now I now one day it won't even matter. As for ex-gay programs, I don't think a person can change their sexuality. The people who claim to change from gay to straight are people who have tried to convince themselves they're straight and they're all just living in denial no matter what they claim.

"Here I lay
still and breathless
just like always
still I want some more"
- Deftones

dreamers imagine someday's picture

Those "home again" camps are

Those "home again" camps are a bunch of bull shit, I mean I work for the Archdiocese of SF and they try not to have anything like that, they have "Days of Dialogue" the weekend after "Day of Silence". "Days of Dialogue" is a retreat were GLBT people and their friends and family come and discuss where faith and sexuality fall in line, stopping homophobia, and they explain the Catholic Policy on being LGBT. It is fun, but my parents think I am just doing my job as a few priests' assistant when I go (I am not out of the closet to my family, but my friends and the priests I work for all know.)

I think I am a lesbian because I find it so hard to truly love boys, I just really love girls. Anyways the fact that I never had a good experience in friendships with boys just don't help.

You can't change your sexuality, it just can't happen I mean our sexuality is such an integral part of us that we can't change it with out hurting our relationships.

I use to be Someday's Dreamer but something happened to my account. Kaorin is not a fangirl of Sakaki, the last episode of Azumanga Daioh is all you need as proof.

NovaCat's picture

I think sexuality can change,

I think sexuality can change, but I don't think in any really large or significant way, and certainly not through our own actions. Basically, the extent to which we can actively change our sexualities is negligible. Unless tons and tons of scientific, psychological studies are just flat-out wrong, it can be very psychologically damaging to try and force yourself into being a sexuality that you are not.

I'm comfortable with myself, and so I don't really seek to change myself. If I wanted to, I really don't think it would do any good anyway. I can't deny the fact that I'm not attracted to girls, and no amount of forcing myself to be in relationships with them will change that.

Hyacinthus's picture

No chance!

I don't believe that there is any way for someone to change their sexuality. Sexuality is something that is part of who we are, something constant, and we cannot change it no matter how hard we try. We can repress it, and in my opinion that's all these ex-gay programs are, but ultimately that does nothing but harm us. As for why i'm gay I honestly don't know, I mmean I believe that it is a fundimental part of my soul but I don't really know, or care for that matter, what makes me feel this way. All I do know is that I love who I am, I love men, and I never want to change. Lol that's my 2 cents.

"The French are glad to die for love, they delight in fighting duels. But I like a man who lives, and gives expensive jewels"