Okay, so two months ago a guy from my real life who barely knew me told me over the internet that he liked me. Against my no dating policy at the time and my better judgment, I told him I liked him too. All was happy.
Two weeks later, after talking online and basically deciding that we would be dating when school started again, he said that it wouldn't work and that we would be better friends than boyfriends. He had no real reason for the change of heart, and I was hurt.
Two weeks later, he had a boyfriend from another school. I was even more hurt because he said something about waiting until we knew each other better and he didn't wait. He also didn't tell me, avoided me, but told all of my friends; I found out from a gossip.
I wrote to him and explained my hurt feelings and he didn't seem to care.
We saw each other on campus and didn't talk.
There was no word from him for weeks.
Less than a week ago, he instant messaged me and invited me to hang out with a group of his friends to form a sort of gay "fellowship" or support group. I thanked him for including me.
The next day, he instant messaged me again and we talk for a little bit longer. I began to think that maybe he likes me again and I saw a chance to make the right decision this time, but decided that that was just my desire for closure sneaking in to my judgment of the situation.
Then we ended up having lunch in a group of our friends.
Then he started instant messaging me more.
Then he started hinting at things again. He said that he made "a wrong decision." He was playing the same game he played before.
Then I started being more sure that he likes me again.
And now, now is the moment when I ask you for advice. I know that I don't really get replies to my posts, but I have no idea what to do. Here is my dilemma:
Do I use my better judgment and turn him down in order to maintain my self respect, even if that means being single for an indeterminable amount of time?
or
Do I accept and go into it seeking the good relationship I expected, even though he hurt me and knowing that he could change so suddenly? Do I put my heart out there again when it's really been abused by him before? Do I go into a situation in which I would be the backup choice, the thing he went back to after his other thing failed?
I wish that I could just be really focused on revenge and devise something devious, but that's not me. Until recently, I was sure that I would turn him down, but now I'm not sure. If I were advising myself, I'd probably tell myself to turn him down, but it's different now that I'm actually in the situation. I just don't know what to do.
Please help.
Sincerely,
Formerly Scott
added later...
One of my major issues with this whole thing was that the mess that happened a month ago was started by him and that he ended it, and that it was so quick. Maybe I'll post the conversations or something. It's hard to describe. I thought it was ridiculous at the time, too, but I went with it. He was the one that hurried it along, he was the one who upped our status to dating based on so little, and he was the one who decided that it wouldn't work when he knew no more about me than he did before. I agree: real life relationships are better. I've never seen the point in online things; they're quite silly. We were starting school in three weeks, and I really don't think that that's a long time to wait. Even if he had ended whatever thing we had because he found someone else and that all he wanted was ass and TOLD me that, I wouldn't have minded because it would have meant that it wasn't something specific to me. That would have been decent, but he wouldn't give me a reason other than that he just knew it wouldn't work. I didn't care about him one bit. I wasn't crazy about him or anything like that. It was, quite simply, what the whole thing implied about me. It was my narcissistic side being unable to handle being evaluated and rejected. Screw him; he wasn't that great.
Now, he's back and he's regretting his decision, which basically means that things didn't work out with the other guy and I'm a second choice. It implies that he was lying when he said that he felt that we wouldn't work as boyfriends so that he wouldn't look as bad, because he obviously doesn't see the same obstacles now that he did then. Loneliness is wonderful at making people re-evaluate things.
I wouldn't be so averse to dating him if he didn't bring it to the weird mindf*ck level he brought it to before. Had it been a question of what guy was more readily available and that that's why I was passed up, I wouldn't have a problem with giving things a try with him now. I wouldn't have taken the rejection as badly, and a friendship might have resulted instead of the awkwardness I started the semester with. But he made it about me. He made it personal.
I'm not looking for true love in my life now; that was obvious by the almost purely sexual relationship I had last semester. I think it would be fun to try something with him, to spend time goofing around and watching movies together as well as whatever else might happen, but now I have to worry about the whole silliness of pride and learning from past mistakes. What does it imply about my level of self respect? But then, am I being too tight-assed if I care so much about self respect? What if he does it all again and I have to go back to that bad place of wondering what's wrong with me and wondering if anyone will ever want to date me?
I suppose all I can do is what most of you have said. I'll proceed with caution. I'll have fun with it. Maybe something will happen. Maybe I'll have a spark of petty revenge and be an asshole, although I doubt it. Or maybe I'll get hurt again and this time have to live with the knowledge that I was someone's second choice and I STILL got hurt and then deal with what that implies about me.
Or maybe nothing will happen at all and I'll have spent all this time wondering for nothing.
We'll see. Maybe I'm wrong.
Bah, sex relationships with jaded seniors are easier because you know exactly why everything is happening, and you can recover from it nicely when it ends.
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No doubt I am the worst person on the face of the planet to ask- seeing that I am a loveless cynic with a penchant for devising devious plots of revenge and power. I would whet his appetite. Have long meaningful conversations on AIM. Try to avoid him in person, if that is possible. Make sure you cut the AIM conversations off at pique moments in the conversation. Gradually increase the length of conversations. Still try to avoid him as much as possible in real life. Then one day, when the tension is very high. Block him from AIM. Deny the entire thing existed. Whenever you see him in public, keep your head up high and say hello. If he asks you about AIM, or about the conversations you had with him, simply so "oh you know AIM, the fun you can have." And walk off.
Granted this is a stupidly silly scheme, and you may potentially look like a total bizatch, and loose more than one friend, and a potential lover. It would be horribly cruel and funny.
Perhaps its not such a good idea.
Oh well. Laugh it off:)
latterz,
eTgen
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I like the way you think
You know, you actually perfectly described what I planned on doing the other day when he started talking to me again, and it's not really far from what I'm doing naturally. You never know; I might end up following that plan without even trying. Well, except for the bitchy blow off at the end; that would have to be planned.
Thanks, though; it's good to know that I wasn't the only one who thought that that would be the most fun way to approach the situation.
Sincerely,
Formerly Scott
Your Decision
listen. if he went off and found himself someone else first and then came crawling back to you, he is saying you are second rate. my advice, suggest that you may not be good enough friends to date yet, and to the same to him as he did to you. you are surely not such a hapless loser that you cannot find anyone else. i am no love expert, but you shouldn't have to settle for his second pick.
Even better, dump him like there is no tomorrow and always remember you would not settle for anything else!
your prob
listen truelly you are attaching to quickly to ward him if with in a two week time span you attched on to him enough to kill you self over him, i mean also if ou think that he isnt worth it maybe he really isn't
he could also be afraid truthfully iwould pull out all my honestly and say listen str8 up now what is going on tell me where this is going, but hey im brutally honest what can i say
kiskis
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And then there was another idea...
If you actually can manage to turn him down, or not be into him, why not go with it? If you can manage to not really care, then go for it. Are you looking for someone to share your life with right now? Even if you are, are you gonna find him right now anyways? So what if this guy's a prick. If you're into him, why not go for it? Have some fun. Just don't get messed up over it, either way.
Hmm...
I think I always give preferential treatment to real-life as opposed to online relationships. So, I guess I'm curious why you didn't go from chatting online to immediately getting together off-line? Not for hooking up, but I mean, it seems people who are getting into each other usually followup on that quickly, not, let's go out in three weeks.
Either way, it seems there was a rush to judgment as far as being "boyfriends," with having no real face-time.
So, while you have your window until you are boyfriends, he meets someone offline, and obviously becomes more taken with someone who is flesh and blood there. Sounds reasonable.
I don't think there is any reason to avoid him. But tread cautiously. Saying you want to hang out doesn't make you a couple, boyfriends, or anything else. It is even possible to date without committing to "dating" as part of some long-term thing.
So, go in with no expectations. Go in skeptical. Go in letting him know where you stand. But leave yourself open to be surprised. Let him win you over. And don't give your heart up so easily. Just allow a lot more greys into your life, you don't have to be strangers or lovers, friends or enemies, etc.
Jeff